How Russia’s Putin is trying to throw the American election for Trump

There’s growing concern that Russia’s Vladimir Putin may be trying to influence the US presidential election on behalf of Donald Trump.

As the story is finally getting attention, I wanted to summarize the issue, and point you in the direction of some of the best reporting out there.

In a nutshell, it is believed that Russian intelligence broke into the computer network of the Democratic National Committee in Washington, DC, stole tens of thousands of emails over a period of a year or longer, and then had Wikileaks publish 19,000 of those emails right before the Democratic Convention in order to embarrass Democrats and help Donald Trump. It is expected that the Russians will have Wikileaks publish even more emails as the election comes closer.

But there’s a second part to the story: That Donald Trump has far too many connections to the Russians for comfort, especially in light of Trump’s bizarrely pro-Russian views on foreign policy.

UPDATE: Donald Trump just publicly urged Russia to hack American computers in order to obtain classified US intelligence information, and help his presidential campaign.

Russians, Watergate-style, broke into DNC computers

An initial investigation suggested Russian intelligence was behind the hack. More from the NYT:

Proving the source of a cyberattack is notoriously difficult. But researchers have concluded that the national committee was breached by two Russian intelligence agencies, which were the same attackers behind previous Russian cyberoperations at the White House, the State Department and the Joint Chiefs of Staff last year. And metadata from the released emails suggests that the documents passed through Russian computers.

Someone claiming to be a hacker named Guccifer 2.0 took credit for the incursion into the DNC’s network. But other cybersecurity experts have now concluded that Guccifer 2.0 isn’t a real person, and is in fact Russian intelligence.

More from the Daily Beast:

The hacker who claims to have stolen emails from the Democratic National Committee and provided them to WikiLeaks is actually an agent of the Russian government and part of an orchestrated attempt to influence U.S. media coverage surrounding the presidential election, a security research group concluded on Tuesday.

The researchers, at Arlington, Va.-based ThreatConnect, traced the self-described Romanian hacker Guccifer 2.0 back to an Internet server in Russia and to a digital address that has been linked in the past to Russian online scams. Far from being a singly, sophisticated hacker, Guccifer 2.0 is more likely a collection of people from the propaganda arm of the Russian government meant to deflect attention away from Moscow as the force behind the DNC hacks and leaks of emails, the researchers found.

“Beyond a reasonable doubt,” Russia is behind the DNC hack

Yet another cybersecurity firm agrees: it’s Russia. From ABC News:

It was the keyboards that gave them away. Russian hackers, typing on keyboards configured in Cyrillic and doing it in a time zone consistent with Moscow, created the “eloquent” code that breached the computers of the Democratic National Committee, according to a top analyst who investigated the hack.

“This was absolutely not an amateur operation … When you look at the totality of all those pieces and you put them together, it kind of paints a really good picture of who the actor was,” Michael Buratowski, the senior vice president of cybersecurity services at Fidelis Cybersecurity, told ABC News Monday. “I come from a law enforcement background, and it’s [about being] beyond a reasonable doubt. And I would say it’s beyond a reasonable doubt … I’m very confident that the malware that we looked at [was from] Russian actors.”

US intelligence now agrees, it’s Russia

From today’s New York Times:

American intelligence agencies have told the White House they now have “high confidence” that the Russian government was behind the theft of emails and documents from the Democratic National Committee, according to federal officials who have been briefed on the evidence.

Donald Trump has “a deep financial dependence on Russian money”

A must-read from Josh Marshall, with a nice overview of Trump’s ties to Russia, including financial, and why all of this is awfully fishy:

At a minimum, Trump appears to have a deep financial dependence on Russian money from persons close to Putin. And this is matched to a conspicuous solicitousness to Russian foreign policy interests where they come into conflict with US policies which go back decades through administrations of both parties. There is also something between a non-trivial and a substantial amount of evidence suggesting Putin-backed financial support for Trump or a non-tacit alliance between the two men…

To put this all into perspective, if Vladimir Putin were simply the CEO of a major American corporation and there was this much money flowing in Trump’s direction, combined with this much solicitousness of Putin’s policy agenda, it would set off alarm bells galore. That is not hyperbole or exaggeration. And yet Putin is not the CEO of an American corporation. He’s the autocrat who rules a foreign state, with an increasingly hostile posture towards the United States and a substantial stockpile of nuclear weapons. The stakes involved in finding out ‘what’s going on’ as Trump might put it are quite a bit higher.

Much more on Trump’s financial ties to Russia, from the Washington Post :

Inside Trump’s financial ties to Russia and his unusual flattery of Vladimir Putin….  Since the 1980s, Trump and his family members have made numerous trips to Moscow in search of business opportunities, and they have relied on Russian investors to buy their properties around the world.

“Russians make up a pretty disproportionate cross-section of a lot of our assets,” Trump’s son, Donald Jr., told a real estate conference in 2008, according to an account posted on the website of eTurboNews, a trade publication. “We see a lot of money pouring in from Russia.”

On the campaign trail, Trump has called for a new partnership with Moscow, overhauling NATO, the allied military force seen as the chief protector of pro-Western nations near Russia. And Trump has surrounded himself with a team of advisers who have had financial ties to Russia.

Josh Marshall asks:

How many of Trump’s properties and business ventures have relied on or currently rely on equity investments from Russian nationals?

That is Josh’s main, and most troubling, point: The question isn’t how much Trump has invested in Russia, the question is how much Russia has invested in Trump.

More from Josh:

After his bankruptcy and business failures roughly a decade ago Trump has had an increasingly difficult time finding sources of capital for new investments. As I noted above, Trump has been blackballed by all major US banks with the exception of Deutschebank, which is of course a foreign bank with a major US presence. He has steadied and rebuilt his financial empire with a heavy reliance on capital from Russia. At a minimum the Trump organization is receiving lots of investment capital from people close to Vladimir Putin.

Trump’s tax returns would likely clarify the depth of his connections to and dependence on Russian capital aligned with Putin. And in case you’re keeping score at home: no, that’s not reassuring.

Trump’s tax returns could go a long way towards showing the extent of the GOP presidential candidate’s financial ties to Russia. But Trump, contrary to tradition, refuses to release them.

Many Donald Trump advisers have disturbingly close ties to Moscow

Let’s start with Paul Manafort, Trump’s campaign manager. From Buzzfeed:

Trump’s top adviser, Paul Manafort, has spent much of his recent career working for pro-Russian forces in Ukraine, and doing complex deals for an oligarch with close ties to Putin. And while a Democratic senator has already charged Trump is not responsible enough to receive secret information, Manafort’s deep relationships with top pro-Russian figures raise special concerns….

A former Republican national security official put it more bluntly: “He’s an intelligence classification vetting nightmare scenario.”

Manafort’s close ties to Russia’s authoritarian ruler match Trump’s own praise for Putin. Putin — whose project of undermining his western antagonists by any means has often included support for right-wing populists — last year called Trump a “bright and talented” figure, and Russia’s propaganda outlets have amplified the American’s campaign. Trump responded to Putin’s praise in kind, saying that “he’s running his country and at least he’s a leader, unlike what we have in this country,” and avoided condemning the murders of journalists in Putin’s Russia.

Make Russia Great Again, an editorial in the NY Daily News, explains more:

Is it a coincidence that Russian state-controlled media are cheering on Trump at every turn?

Is it a coincidence that top Trump foreign policy adviser Michael Flynn, a former general vetted for a spot on his ticket, sat near Putin at a celebration for the Russian propaganda outlet RT?

Is it a coincidence that Trump’s business has increasingly relied on loans from Russian sources, and, in 2008, Donald Trump Jr. told a real estate conference that “Russians make up a pretty disproportionate cross section of a lot of our assets”?

Josh Marshall has even more on Trump’s top foreign policy adviser, Carter Page:

Trump’s foreign policy advisor on Russia and Europe is Carter Page, a man whose entire professional career has revolved around investments in Russia and who has deep and continuing financial and employment ties to Gazprom. If you’re not familiar with Gazprom, imagine if most or all of the US energy industry were rolled up into a single company and it were personally controlled by the US President who used it as a source of revenue and patronage. That is Gazprom’s role in the Russian political and economic system. It is no exaggeration to say that you cannot be involved with Gazprom at the very high level which Page has been without being wholly in alignment with Putin’s policies. Those ties also allow Putin to put Page out of business at any time.

Trump’s policies are a gift to Moscow

Franklin Foer in Slate.com:

“Putin’s Puppet: If the Russian president could design a candidate to undermine American interests — and advance his own — he’d look a lot like Donald Trump.”

Donald Trump is like the Kremlin’s favored candidates, only more so. He celebrated the United Kingdom’s exit from the EU. He denounces NATO with feeling. He is also a great admirer of Vladimir Putin. Trump’s devotion to the Russian president has been portrayed as buffoonish enthusiasm for a fellow macho strongman. But Trump’s statements of praise amount to something closer to slavish devotion. In 2007, he praised Putin for “rebuilding Russia.” A year later he added, “He does his work well. Much better than our Bush.” When Putin ripped American exceptionalism in a New York Times op-ed in 2013, Trump called it “a masterpiece.” Despite ample evidence, Trump denies that Putin has assassinated his opponents: “In all fairness to Putin, you’re saying he killed people. I haven’t seen that.” In the event that such killings have transpired, they can be forgiven: “At least he’s a leader.” And not just any old head of state: “I will tell you that, in terms of leadership, he’s getting an A.”

And don’t forget that just last week, Donald Trump told the New York Times that if Putin invades our NATO allies in Europe, President Trump may just let him, and not respond. You know that Putin was salivating over that one.

What’s Putin’s motivation, beyond having his own puppet as US president?

Putin hates Hillary. From Politico Europe.

When mass protests against Russian President Vladimir Putin erupted in Moscow in December 2011, Putin made clear who he thought was really behind them: Secretary of State Hillary Clinton.

With the protesters accusing Putin of having rigged recent elections, the Russian leader pointed an angry finger at Clinton, who had issued a statement sharply critical of the voting results. “She said they were dishonest and unfair,” Putin fumed in public remarks, saying that Clinton gave “a signal” to demonstrators working “with the support of the U.S. State Department” to undermine his power. “We need to safeguard ourselves from this interference in our internal affairs,” Putin declared.

Five years later, Putin may be seeking revenge against Clinton.

Finally, there’s Wikileaks’ role in all of this

The final issue is Wikileaks’ role in all of this.

I’ve always feared that Wikileaks had an agenda that goes beyond simply publishing “secret information” to “bring important new and information to light.” I always suspected a vein of anti-Americanism was motivating Wikileaks. And with this latest leak, Wikileaks founder Julian Assange made clear that his intentions were hardly pure. Assange is in this to destroy Hillary Clinton, and make her lose the presidency.

From the NYT:

The emails were released by WikiLeaks, whose founder, Julian Assange has made it clear that he hoped to harm Hillary Clinton’s chances of winning the presidency.

In a separate NYT story, Assange detailed why he preferred Trump over Clinton as president, and that he was releasing the emails in order to hurt Hillary’s electoral chances:

Six weeks before the anti-secrecy organization WikiLeaks published an archive of hacked Democratic National Committee emails ahead of the Democratic convention, the organization’s founder, Julian Assange, foreshadowed the release — and made it clear that he hoped to harm Hillary Clinton’s chances of winning the presidency….

In the interview, Mr. Assange told a British television host, Robert Peston of the ITV network, that his organization had obtained “emails related to Hillary Clinton which are pending publication,” which he pronounced “great.” He also suggested that he not only opposed her candidacy on policy grounds, but also saw her as a personal foe.

At one point, Mr. Peston said: “Plainly, what you are saying, what you are publishing, hurts Hillary Clinton. Would you prefer Trump to be president?”

Mr. Assange replied that what Mr. Trump would do as president was “completely unpredictable.” By contrast, he thought it was predictable that Mrs. Clinton would wield power in two ways he found problematic.

Then you have the fact that Wikileaks helped Edward Snowden escape to Russia. In retrospect, it’s awfully interesting, in view of what we know now about the DNC leak and Wikileaks’ role in publishing it, that Wikileaks and Assange had the ties to Putin’s government that permitted them to get Snowden asylum.

And Wikileaks was also able to get its hands on the DNC emails that Russian intelligence apparently stole.

And now Julian Assange is, apparently by his own words, trying to throw our election to Donald Trump; while Russian intelligence may be doing the same.

Like I said, awfully interesting.

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42 Responses to “How Russia’s Putin is trying to throw the American election for Trump”

  1. Michael Morris says:

    No, they just hacked it.

  2. k9style says:

    Clinton Campaign: Russia Rigging US Election by Exposing How We Rigged Election

    ROTFLMAO!!! You libs are the best! You literally can’t make this sh!t up.

  3. Annaachu says:

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  4. pause mafia says:

    You know what…Russia and Putin didn’t create an unsecure network…Hillary did.

  5. HandsomeMrToad says:

    Well, Russians don’t use articles as often as we do, but there are DETERMINERS in Russian, and grammatically determiners are almost the same as articles. (In English, “this” is usually classified as a determiner, but this web site calls “this” a definite article. http://partofspeech.org/what-part-of-speech-is-this/ ). In Russian,”Odin” (pronounced “ah-DEEN”, which also means the number one) is used sometimes as a determiner, indistinguishable from the English article “a/an”; also “takoi”, which translates into “such a” or “a certain” (“takoi chelovek” can mean “such a person as this” or “a certain person” can be used in the same way.) And “ni” means “any”.

  6. Badgerite says:

    Cause he’s not fully loaded? Ooopa shoobie? Flip City? Why does Trump do or say anything?

  7. muffler says:

    He has no use for the protocols and process which has led this country for 200 plus years. He has disdain for anything that he cannot manipulate for his own benefit regardless of the damage done. I find it amazing that the GOP and its followers have adopted the antithesis of its party’s ideals and are willing to ignore all the evidence in order for the thrill of a win. They appear to have no desire to see past November 1st as the win means more than the true risk exposure. The best part is Trump and his “family/friends” will make out great and they and their children’s children will be cleaning up the mess – if they can.

  8. barbarajmay says:

    Good God. We are about to elect the Manchurian candidate,

  9. devlzadvocate says:

    With his words of tossing NATO allies overboard, the Annoying Talking Yam is apparently planning some type of alliance with Putin. He seems to be having a bromance with Putin and has a serious attraction to other authoritarian leaders (e.g. Marla Maples reference to the Hitler quote book on his nightstand and praise of Kim Jung Un). His way of dealing with his family, his public speaking manner and the type of “follower” he attracts throw up red flags as a dictatorial leader who would make up rules as he goes along. He has no regard for history, contracts, people or the future. I cannot help but see him as a Putin double.

  10. heimaey says:

    Oh John, don’t be too nice to me! I don’t know where I said Putin wasn’t evil. I am just not convinced he is in cahoots with Trump – if I am wrong, then fine, but it seems like this is what Trump wants us to think more than it is actually the case. Trump is now asking the Russians to hack into Hillary’s email to find those deleted emails. If he’s in cahoots why is he asking them publically? He’s got the media wrapped around his finger and is taking attention away from the DNC this week. The media seems to be responding in kind.

  11. Or Mrs. Putin. Sorry, Putin is divorced like Trump. I meant the new woman who bore Putin’s baby.

  12. Even the fact that you know about Boris & Natasha only helps cement the fact that you’re a spy. I’ve been to Russia and the Soviet Union, and no one knows of Boris & Natasha over there. Not to mention, Boris & Natasha are from 50 years ago – no one young Russian would be familiar with them.

  13. Badgerite says:

    Actually, I think the connections are a little less tenuous then your analogy depicts.
    There has never been so much as a candidate for President of the United States who has ever even breathed the idea of breaking the NATO Alliance. Certainly not a nominee of one of the major parties and certainly never a POTUS. For as long as NATO has existed. And that dates back to the end of WWII. There is no rational reason to make the kinds of statements that Trump is making. Other than he plans to try to win the presidency and follow through on these statements. At the very least, he will take the US into an isolationist mode the likes of which it has not seen since before WWII. You think that is just a coincidence that that is exactly what Vladimir Putin would want? And it is just a coincidence that Julian Assange has access to email hacked by Russian intelligence services. I don’t. Assange has admitted that he is attempting to alter the dynamic of the US elections in favor of Trump. His excuse for doing so is pretty lame. No one in their right mind would want someone who is “unpredictable” in charge of the nuclear arsenal of the United States. He wants him to win because he is predictable. He would make America …..Isolationist again. And that would be Vladimir Putin’s wet dream. Assange’s as well. Not just isolationist in a conventional sense. But isolationist tot he extent that we would “walk out on” NATO (Trump’s very woods,,,, of which he has the “best”) .
    I guarantee, alarms bells are going off all over Eastern Europe when that orange turd opens his foul mouth.

  14. dcinsider says:

    Susan Sarandon comments on AmericaBlog?

  15. dcinsider says:

    The guy’s a child molester.

  16. Badgerite says:

    No. Pence is a cellphone buzzer. BZZZZZZZZZ. BZZZZZZZZ.

  17. dcinsider says:

    Trump/Putin 2016

    I actually believe Putin would be better on gay rights than Pence.

    Also, Pence begins with a P and so does Putin.

    Both Pence and Putin have five letters. (scary)

    There are no photographs available of Putin and Pence in the same room. None. Why is that? Are they the same person?

    Conclusion: Pence is Putin.

  18. Badgerite says:

    Yes, he may. I consider him to be a really strange guy with an agenda that is anything but transparent. He seems to have some sort of Messianic complex and somehow all things American are in his cross hairs. Consequences to others be damned.

  19. Phil in FLL says:

    Yes, it’s very difficult to actually prosecute someone for treason, but the present circumstances are certainly grounds for registered Republicans to sit out the 2016 election (or even change party affiliations). I think that’s the real bone of contention here.

  20. Badgerite says:

    Well, some in the GOP have actually changed their party affiliations this year based on that very thought. And many of them are people in the know. Treason requires more than obvious connections. But one would think the GOP ought to give this some thought and some investigation. As should the media. And the voters.

  21. Phil in FLL says:

    It was always clear that Putin’s preference was an American president who would walk out of NATO, leaving him to terrorize the Baltic countries and the rest of Eastern Europe unhindered. Now that you mention it, Assange may share that sentiment.

  22. Badgerite says:

    Moose and Squirrel says goodbye.

  23. Badgerite says:

    Surprise. Surprise. Assange says it is because Trump is “unpredictable”.
    Why would you want someone “unpredictable” having control of the nuclear arsenal of the United States of America. I would submit that the reason for the leaks is that in fact Trump is “predictable” to Assange and to Putin. He has, more than once, indicated that were he President, he would try to pull the US out of NATO. And please don’t tell me the US needs to do that for our budget. This was so upsetting to our allies in NATO that Secretary Kerry and even several GOP Senators had to make a trip to Europe to assure our allies that this was not the case. So Trump has already harmed the credibility of the NATO Alliance and he was only a candidate at that point.
    Now he is the nominee and he says that the US should “walk out of NATO”.
    That actually sounds pretty “predictable” to me.

  24. And yours is typical naive communist-sympathizing peacenik that went out of fashion 30 years ago. The fact that you have no idea that Vladmir Putin is a bad man is, well, pretty astounding.

  25. Ah, anti-NATO comments too. I knew you were FSB/GRU. Buh bye, Boris.

  26. Hi GRU Xander. First off, they weren’t hackers, they were members of the GRU and FSB. The follow-on to the KGB and Russian military intelligence. And if you don’t think they’re capable of hacking computers, I have a bankrupt Trump seaside resort to sell you.

    Second, why can’t it influence the election? Your buddy Julian Assange said publicly that it would, that in fact the information would get Hillary put in jail. So he seems to think it will work.

    As for Trump being pro-Russia, your protestations to the contrary, look at his own words. He loves Putin. Or at the very least, is indebted to Putin. And absolutely Trump will lift the sanctions on Russia, and that’s what you GRU boys are counting on.

    Go away before someone drops a dacha on you.

  27. Badgerite says:

    Putin isn’t powerful. That is actually why he would need someone like Trump at the helm of the country that is and can organize significant push back against his aims. Yes, clearly territorial recreation of the old Soviet Union is his wet dream and that would certainly involve taking by force and probably under some pretext the Baltic States that are now independent and part of the NATO Alliance.
    Expert? Walking out of NATO would not be good for the US because Putin is not good for the US. I see Donald Trump and him as really having the same aims and that is rule by oligarchy. Rule from the top by an elite moneyed class. I happen to believe in the Four Freedoms as espoused by FDR. Putin’s Russia does not. And I happen to believe in the American Bill of Rights. Putin’s Russia does not. Countries who believe in these principles ally together for mutual aid and protection from aggression by those who do not. That is NATO. You bet it is good for the US. We call that Enlightened Self Interest.

  28. heimaey says:

    Well if they can prove all this then it’s ground for treason and he should be ineligible to run.

  29. Badgerite says:

    The article basically says that Trump is such a turd with such a limited capacity to understand foreign affairs or even any interest in said topic that he can only think in terms of his own business practices and so that would be responsible for his statements of non support for the Baltic states that are NATO allies. It’s all good. Because he is such a pea brain and doesn’t care anyway. The writers of the article describe this as not out of character for his limited mind set. (Paraphrasing but not much ) And that his corrupt connections are not out of line with what any corrupt international businessman, such as a Trump, would have, so it’s all good. (Not really even paraphrasing much at all. The article really does say that his corrupt connections are not out of line with what you would expect for a corrupt man of international business. And you just made the case for why Vladimir Putin and his intelligence services would want to affect the US elections. The article did say that there was some public push back by Carter while in Russia but I think I’ll trust my lying eyes over anything these guys say. Thanks. It is also indisputable , as Trump Monster Junior has made clear, that Trump’s businesses have gotten massive infusions of cash from Russia and specifically from those close to Putin. This isn’t a maybe or made up. It came, after all, straight from the horses mouth.
    Trump Junior.

  30. Phil in FLL says:

    And now, as noted in John’s post above, the New York Times offers documented evidence that Julian Assange, founder of Wikileaks, was trying to tip the election in favor of Trump.

  31. Xander says:

    So funny.))) Putin is so powerfull. )) He will have all the world soon.))
    You should wright books.))
    You do not know what Trump or Clinton would or would not do. You can’t speak for them.
    BTW who told you that walking out of NATO is not good for USA? Are you an expert?

    PS You should be carefull! I’m Russian! May be I am a spy! Boris and Natasha son for sure! ))))) Leaving this comment makes you pro-Russian! CIA nd FBI watche you already, believe me. ))

  32. Badgerite says:

    OMG. The Orange Trump Monster has already said that he would. And in fact he was so appreciative of the recent leak from ‘wikileaks’ (wink, wink, nudge,nudge) that he thought he would make his intentions clearer. He just said if the Baltic States don’t “pay up” the US should walk out of NATO. And he thanked his “friends” in Russia and China. Clinton will certainly not walk away from NATO. Trump has made it very clear to the Russians, if to no one else, that he would. Sock puppet. I think Vladimir Putin envisions the territorial recreation of the old Soviet Union/ What’s more, if he is successful in his meddling in the US elections, and then reoccupies the Baltic states claiming that Russian citizens there are being “abused” , etc, he would then proceed to try to sway Germany into the Russian orbit and away from Europe and the west.
    Perhaps by the same tactic. It is no secret that the recent flood of immigration has unsettled things there as it has everywhere in Europe.

  33. Phil in FLL says:

    Back in 2008, Donald Trump Jr. was bragging about how much money from Russia the Trump organization was getting. Now it’s clear why Trump won’t release his tax returns. They would show the extent of Russian investment in his organization.

    Where are the tax returns?

  34. Phil in FLL says:

    (1) The articles quoted above represent a wide cross-section of journalism. While it’s possible that one isolated article may offer a paranoid, counter-intuitive theory, it’s virtually impossible that journalistic writers across a wide spectrum would do so. Similarly, a single opinion poll may be an outlier, but an aggregate of many different polls never is.

    (2) The FBI and a consensus of law enforcement offers convincing proof that Putin’s government is behind the DNC hack. Google this yourself.

    The obvious conclusion, heimaey, is that you’re the one who is paranoid if you think that this is all a plot among the media and law enforcement aimed at discrediting you preferred candidate, Donald Trump. Your skin seems to be just as thin as your candidate whenever Trump is criticized, even when there is overwhelming evidence. Get over yourself.

  35. Badgerite says:

    This is too stupid to reply to but nonetheless. What, pray tell, would make Hilary Clinton the “most corrupt woman in US politics”? What you are doing, oh sock puppet, is trying to equate two people who are no where in he same universe, let alone the same vicinity. This was always my problem with Bernie Sanders campaign. At a point where he thought he might actually have a chance to win, and as a tactic, not because it was true, he and his supporters and especially the morally pure Weaver started throwing all manner of unjustified and untrue vitriol at her. So far her horrendous crimes are that she took money for speeches and many of those speeches were to Wall Street Bankers, etc, or that she used a private email server relying on the expertise of people in State to know whether what they were sending her was sensitive material or not. And finally, some staffers at the DNC thought out loud on their emails and opined a lean toward her over Bernie Sanders. Had there been no caucuses and all the primaries were open and there were no superduper delegates, Bernie Sanders still would have lost. It might have been closer but not by much. I heard some of his California delegates walked out. Sanders lost California by 10 full percentage points.
    In Vladimir Putin’s Russia where opponents end up dead or in jail, they would LOL at this idea of “corruption”.

  36. Xander says:

    Guys, I’m from Russia. I’m sorry – are you serious?
    You want to say that few Russian hackers (nobody proves it yet actually) can influence on USA politics? USA politics is so weak?
    BTW – as far as I know Trump is an official candidate from Republican party. So you want to say that all that patry and everybody who supports Tump – are pro-Russian? So they betray USA. So why not put Trump and all republicans in jail?
    OMG.
    Do you really belive that Tump or Clinton will do anything in fafour of Russian interests?
    All the presidents of all the countries think first of all about their own countries.

  37. heimaey says:

    It’s typical old school cold war paranoia. Here’s a good counter point to this ridiculousness:

    http://www.nybooks.com/daily/2016/07/26/trump-putin-fallacy-failure-of-imagination/

  38. Nancy Wightman says:

    Imagine, Russian hackers going after the most corrupt woman in US politics, and they come up with bad stuff that even Her Highness cannot deny. Plus, they already know the team doing her so called security, since they were hacking her personal Secretary of State email server for years. Donald Trump is a corrupt, loony tune cartoon dictator owned by every government of every country with a failing Trump property.
    The US has two known criminals running for president, but that isn’t what is upsetting the US media. No, they’re all excited because one of the countries that dislikes us might be taking advantage of the situation. Guess what, as long as Clump is around, this is just the start.

  39. Don Chandler says:

    Doesn’t surprise me at all. In december 2011, In from Haaretz:

    “The elections, which were recently described by U.S. Secretary of State Hillary Clinton as neither free nor fair, resulted with Putin’s United Russia party winning less than 50 percent of Sunday’s vote – a steep fall from its earlier two-thirds majority.”

    I’m sure Putin holds a grudge. Hopefully there aren’t any more damaging emails…especially from Hillary.

    Wikileaks dude, Assange doesn’t like Hillary? Probably doesn’t like Obama either. The system keeps Assange holed up in an Equador embassy in England. What ever happened to open societies?

    Does Snowden like Hillary? Probably not. There are many that think Snowden could get a fair trial in the US. Hillary is one. Just not true.

    Yeah, Russia is meddling. They have trolls all over the internet trying to influence opinion. They are kind of pathetic. But they are getting better.

    Trump wants to change American alliances and he should be viewed with the very highest scrutiny. Release those Tax Returns.

  40. All the cybersecurity experts from multiple firms, and our own intelligence agencies, believe this “drivel.” Not to mention, what part of the story is unbelievable? That Russia would spy on us? That Putin and Trump have a good relationship, and Putin would prefer Trump in order to get the sanctions lifted? That Trump has significant financial and political ties to Russia? Or that Wikileaks has a serious vendetta against Hillary, and that Assange went public last month in saying that he thinks its better for Trump to win?

    There is no part of this story that isn’t credible, that isn’t believable, that isn’t reasonable.

  41. Badgerite says:

    I believe the FBI and the CIA and other intelligence agencies have them.
    What about the words ‘beyond a reasonable doubt’ do you not understand?

  42. heimaey says:

    Where’s the tin foil hat for people who believe this drivel?

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