Video shows Sanders-supporting chair thrower at Nevada Dem convention


Courtesy of Samantha Bee and CNN, there’s now video of a chair being raised in the air, apparently about to be thrown, at the Democratic state convention in Nevada.

Bernie Sanders and his supporters have claimed repeatedly that there was no threat of violence at the convention, a scene that nearly broke into a riot a week ago after Sanders supporters claimed, falsely, that they had been cheated. Not only was Sen. Barbara Boxer booed at the convention, but the state party chair received threats against her children. Boxer later told CNN that she feared for her safety. Security finally shut down the event when they could no longer guarantee the attendees safety from Sanders supporters.

As background, Hillary Clinton had won the state earlier this year, and Sanders supporters attempted to change the rules so that they could get the most delegates. They lost, and threw a fit.

Sanders and his supporters, when faced with public outrage over their behavior, denied — quite vociferously — that anyone was “throwing chairs.”

In the video, a snippet of which is below, it’s quite clear that a man raises a chair in the air, and is about to throw it before someone else stops him.

As Samantha Bee notes, perhaps the man thought he was at a Jewish wedding.

Here’s the relevant clip from Bee’s recent broadcast.

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And when you get a chance, it’s worth looking at the rest of Samantha Bee’s report. She’s quite pointed, in only the way she can be, about Sanders’ repeated claims of being cheated out of the nomination.

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135 Responses to “Video shows Sanders-supporting chair thrower at Nevada Dem convention”

  1. b1bbs g0t h4nds says:

    AND STILL to this day we have not seen a chair thrown, nor have we seen “violence” from bernie supporters. but hey, there was one arrest, and it just so happened to be a hillary supporter

  2. Butch1 says:

    Sorry, you think my humor is condescension.
    Your “red-pencil” correction my selection of wording is a form of “condescension” as well, wouldn’t you say?

  3. libby says:

    Your condescension is cute but completely unnecessary.

  4. Butch1 says:

    You’re a little late to the dance, eh?

    It says, ” . . .supports chair thrower . . .”
    Since there WASN’T a chair thrown and there is a video that substantiates that, I would say my comment was correct. I could have been vulgar about it and said that the Headline was an outright lie, but I did not. Do you have a comprehension problem with this, libby? (This is rhetorical. You can look it up.)

  5. libby says:

    37 videos showing that the reaction was not the real story. NV Dems tanking the caucas process did happen and the media framed the reaction as ‘berniebros being misogynistic’ and tried to make out they were complaining about their own rules not being passed. When the spin is removed.. the shame, is pretty much entirely, with Roberta Lange and her cohorts.

  6. libby says:

    Oh.. it was just a deceitful headline?!

  7. Ghostdreams says:

    The real question is Moniss, WHY DID THIS CRAP even HAPPEN? And why are YOU so willing to overlook it?
    When adult human beings can overlook the vile filth that was said to Roberta Lange you know something is very wrong! That bull manure response we saw is how criminals react when caught out on their crimes.
    They blame the victim.
    It’s not THEIR fault the beat their kids .. nooooo.
    It’s not their fault they beat their spouse.. oh noooo.
    If only those brats would shut up and go to bed they wouldn’t have a broken arm.
    If only the damn spouse would shut up when they’re watching TV the spouse wouldn’t have a black eye.
    I lost all respect for Bernie over this .. I really did.

  8. John Metal says:

    More specious bs from a shillary troll. Is this how you want to make your living John? Always saddens me to see people support a corporate shill that doesn’t give a damn about them.

  9. susieq2u says:

    Rolling Stone reached out to each of them and spoke to them – and yes, they were Bernie supporters.

  10. moniss says:

    Don’t need your respect. No indication that anybody who made threats is an actual Bernie person. Do you seriously think that the Secret Service doesn’t get dozens of those about all of the candidates every single day? If so you need to actually talk to people who do this kind of security for a living. Also you seem to seriously think that with hundreds and hundreds of people there that they all just somehow forgot to catch your “violence” on video. Sure thing. I also notice you just can’t quite bring yourself to say good things about the Bernie supporters who calmed the guy down and prevented him from going any further. I wonder why that is?

  11. akbatgirly says:

    I don’t own a phone (it’s a personal quality of lifestyle choice) and sometimes it’s a bit inconvenient, but well worth not having that leash around my neck. I would like to point out to the people below that just because there isn’t taped footage of something, it doesn’t mean that it didn’t happen? I don’t know if chairs were thrown or not at the Nevada convention, but the fact that there is video footage of a man “almost but not quite throwing a chair” is not proof that another, different chair was not thrown. I mean, how do we know that the Revolutionary War was fought? There was no video footage……………..

    I attended a caucus and convention in another state. The caucus was fine, the Bernie supporters were fun to be around, chanting and waving their signs, we all enjoyed their youthful enthusiasm. By the time the convention came around though, things had changed. There was this underlying anger……….on the last day they were aggressively shouting and purposefully delaying things, then complaining that the “establishment delay tactics” were a plot in “the rigged system”. And they had won our state by a landslide! I don’t know how this happened between the caucus and the convention, but somehow the enthusiastic young people had turned into a somewhat scary and mob-like crowd. There was no chair throwing at our convention, but there were times that it was a bit frightening. I’m sure that if I had been an older woman sitting at the dais in front of the crowd in Nevada, I would have been frightened to death. So what if that particular chair wasn’t thrown because somebody stopped the guy? He aggressively picked up a chair and brandished it at a group of old people. That’s frightening! And there is absolutely no excuse for death threats and threats to someone’s children and grandchildren. The sheer numbers of those threats gives a good idea what the “mood” of the crowd at the convention was. Here’s a hint; trying to justify the actions of the Nevada convention goers is pathetic. If Bernie supporters would just own it and condemn it, the rest of the world would have a lot more respect for you.

  12. moniss says:

    It is quite clear that John, Rachel Maddow, Mark Thompson, Stephanie Miller etc. are angling to be sure to be at all the beltway cocktail parties and maybe even get a job for themselves. Selling out is never pretty but it is always obvious. Just like John Lewis etc. I have no problem with anybody supporting Hillary but I do have a problem with telling lies to do so. The early attack by John Lewis was a disgrace. The week-long non-stop false attacks by aforementioned program hosts was a disgrace. Stopped me from listening now and into the future. I never thought that John would go this route but apparently opportunity is a strong drug.

  13. mereside says:

    Wolves in sheep’s clothing comes to mind. I realized this blog was off a few years ago, but check back occasionally to remind myself.

  14. mereside says:

    John’s, “goldwater girl” is actually a republican in democratic clothing at times that suit her political needs. The DNC has taken the party so far to the right that it is unrecognizable.
    Hillary has outsmarted herself by half.

  15. Brett Zink says:

    It’s tag lines like this. It’s the constant reporting of something, that is not true. (If there is any reporting at all?) It’s all of it that is turning progressives off. From both the DNC, and those that support the DNC’s candidates. We don’t hate Hillary. We are upset at the tactics taken, by a party that says they are better than Reteapublicangelicals. This Democrat Primary is not doing said “better Party” any favors/good. You are hurting your own chances in both the Presidential election, and the downticket races. You can try to blame it on Bernie, his supporters, other? But you only have yourselves and your words/actions to blame.

  16. Kurt Swanson says:

    How irresponsible. Was a chair thrown? No. So how in the world can there be a chair thrower?

  17. Butch1 says:

    You haven’t; they already made them available for the public.

  18. Butch1 says:

    It’s actually a “suggestive phrase.” It implants the suggestion of a thrown chair even though it wasn’t. (clever) ;-)

  19. Butch1 says:

    There was no chair throwing at the event! The AP wire service and Debbie Wasserman-Schultz lied about this as this video will prove. One man lifted a chair as if to throw it and another man took it away from him and set it down. Those who say there were chairs thrown are continuing to pass along disinformation. It didn’t happen and the Sanders people had a right to be upset when the Roberts Rules of Order weren’t even followed.

    The place was supposed to open at 10:00a and she opened it for the Clinton people and started early voting on a rules change before the Sanders people could even come in. They weren’t allowed to enter. That is how the day started.

  20. Notorious TBG says:

    Dissappointed in Samantha… I wouldnt think she would be such an obvious shill.

  21. Moderator3 says:

    Keep it under your hat. I don’t want the IRS to hear about it.

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  24. Seriously says:

    Exactly. Not only a poorly worded sentence, but an outright lie.

  25. Moderator4 says:

    We can charge them? Nobody told me about that when I volunteered for this gig! ;)

  26. Emi says:

    It is called slanting the news to fit his own delusional views

  27. Moderator3 says:

    I think I got that. Any more and I will charge you an editing fee.

  28. Moderator3 says:

    Gave me a good laugh.

  29. Rainbird says:

    Cool! Thanks! The first time I wrote it, I hit post and it disappeared. There was one other difference, the first time I caught my error of “rocks” and “rocks” instead of “bottles” and “rocks” :-)

  30. Moderator3 says:

    You had two comments that were the same except for a paragraph break. I deleted one.

  31. Janet Faber says:

    Samantha Bee…you ignore all the cheating in most of the primaries, and condemn Sanders’ supporters for objecting? Hillary shill

  32. Rainbird says:

    So John, I haven’t seen any statements condemning, the ACTUAL violence, the ACTUAL fires started, the ACTUAL rocks thrown, the ACTUAL rocks thrown or the ACTUAL near riot Tuesday night in New Mexico. Those must have all been Hillary supporters, right? Since all you republican lites think the Bernie supporters are actually Trump supporters anyway. –So it couldn’t have been us. So you were so quick to jump Bernie for not apologizing, I am wondering if Hillary has apologized to Trump yet?

    Why are you not posting blog entries saying how horrible this is? You have one guy who lifts up a chair (which equals throwing it in your mind) and you take to the keyboard. Where is that same righteous indignity?

  33. Rainbird says:

    So John, I haven’t seen any statements condemning, the ACTUAL violence, the ACTUAL fires started, the ACTUAL bottles thrown, the ACTUAL rocks thrown or the ACTUAL near riot Tuesday night in New Mexico. Those must have all been Hillary supporters, right? Since all you republican-lites think the Bernie supporters are actually Trump supporters anyway. –So it couldn’t have been us. You were so quick to jump Bernie for not apologizing, I am wondering if Hillary has apologized to Trump yet? Why are you not posting blog entries saying how horrible this is? You have one guy who lifts up a chair (which equals throwing it in your mind) and you take to the keyboard. Where is that same righteous indignity?

  34. angryspittle says:


  35. angryspittle says:

    There were no fucking chairs thrown goddamnit.

  36. Moderator4 says:

    Much better.

  37. Kansachusetts says:

    John, I hate to say this, but I think there is a large element of prevarication in your post. And we all know that prevarication can sometimes be interpreted to reflect poorly on the character of the prevaricator.
    How’s that?

  38. Emi says:

    John: why use the words chair thrower when there was NO chair throwing. I know you are a gay man, but are you really that smitten with Hillary???????

  39. Badgerite says:

    What stopped the crowd from getting out of control was the string of security personnel lined up in front of the stage and a metal fence between them and the line of security personnel.
    Otherwise they would have just taken over. Not by votes or anything, mind you. But just because they were willing to be menacing. Because that would be the only reason one could have for raising a chair into the air after all. Isn’t that right? It was a menacing gesture and meant as such.

  40. Badgerite says:

    So you are telling me that the behavior I have witnessed from Sanders and Weaver, et al is a matter of conscience. Oh my. I believe the phrase that belies that is “in it to win it”. That’s what these tactics are all about.
    When push comes to shove, Bernie Sanders has no problem with shady tactics.

  41. Badgerite says:

    “Imagined” is about the right word for it.
    You know, the more I think about it and the more I see of Sanders and his campaign, I think he has been the dishonest one. He said he got into the race to raise issues. All well and good.
    But somewhere along the way he decided he had fomented a “revolution”. Old 60’s radicals never die, they just ….keep expecting the revolution. But Bernie Sanders will be 75 before the election even happens in November. By inauguration day, he will be 75 1/2. In order to complete a term in office he would need to fulfill his duties until he was 6 months shy of 80 years old. I’m sorry, but that is just too old to be “in it to win it”. And who his number 2 spot would be rather crucial to whether I would even vote for him. A responsible party does not nominate someone to their first term as president at 75. What’s more, he promised this above board campaign. But the last couple of months his campaign has been anything but above board. Samantha Bee has it about right. So does John.
    It seems to be a standard response of Sanders supporters that when any of their views are challenged, they accuse the person doing so of being corrupt. It is a tactic. Not the truth.
    Like I said. I have been sorely disappointed in Sanders campaign and its tactics. And by all accounts those tactics are coming from the top. So.

  42. Max_1 says:

    A lie, when repeated often, becomes truth.


  43. Max_1 says:

    Video shows Sanders-supporting chair thrower

  44. Moderator4 says:

    Disagree all you want, but eliminate the ad hominem name-calling.
    This is a warning.

  45. Peg says:

    Doesn’t he read what he wrote? A man lifted the chair and was stopped.

  46. pliny says:

    A third party vote may carry more weight than a write-in depending on where you live. One of the best ways to still have an effect on this shitshow in progress may be to get Stein past the 15% polling threshold to get in the General debates.

    It’s also important that no matter how disillusioned any of us get by this process to turn out and vote downballot. We’re going to need a Congress that can restrain the worst impulses of eitherTrump or Hillary.

  47. 2karmanot says:


  48. stupidicus says:

    what, you’re just now knowing what others have since day one almost? perhaps that ignorance thing is why you’re a HC supporter, no, but I’m guessing it has more to do with a love for dishonesty you two share made plainly obvious and evident in this post.

    Well done. Gee, had that Bush shoe-thrower not thrown the shoes, would he still have been villified by you?

  49. Kansachusetts says:

    John, I hate to say this because I long admired your blog and regretted it very much when you left, but you have become a lying scumbag on this issue.
    That picture has been around for weeks, along with the story of how people calmed the guy down. Now you bring it back again and headline it calling him a “chair-thrower.” Since he never threw the chair, and nobody else ever threw a chair either, that’s just a lie and you are a scumbag for dredging it up.

    I’m almost 70 years old, and the distortions you are running on Sanders are among the worst I’ve seen in my half a century as a Democrat.

  50. Emi says:

    John, obviously you support Hillary so you will light any fire you can to denigrate any of her opponents. You are full of your yourself. Just like Hillary. Hillary never supported gays until it was the popular thing to do. Hillary only follows trends. She is not a leader. The Clintons are shysters. She wants the votes of the working class but she kneels to her masters on wall st. What a bunch of phonies!

  51. Rainbird says:

    So tell me John, who were the protesters breaking glass and throwing rocks in New Mexico last night? Were those more phantom Bernie Sanders supporters?

  52. TheNeedle says:

    Any untruth or distortion is acceptable in the service of the Queen.

  53. TheNeedle says:

    Progressives and young voters aren’t going to pull the lever for a nominee of a party that clearly loathes and despises them.

  54. hiker_sf says:

    Scratch the surface and you can find the Republican that he once was.

  55. Paul Bashline says:

    According to your headline, their is now “video of Sanders chair thrower”. Just wow! the chair was raised and then lowered…no throwing. It is embarrassing that you would use such headlines to scandalize this non is just pure laziness on your part or your desire to embarrass Sanders and his supporters.

  56. Blogvader says:

    John, with each passing day, sounds like a conservative Post-Ferguson. Pretty soon he’ll be indicting Sanders supporters for daring to locate themselves on a street corner with a protest sign.

  57. Lewis Gannett says:

    Religions famously doctor facts. The whole point of faith is that it transcends the factual. But that isn’t how journalism should operate, it should go without saying. Propaganda is a polite name for nonfactual journalism. A less polite name: tabloid trash.

  58. Phil in FLL says:

    Sally, I agree completely with your statement that Rachel has “given Bernie plenty of air time to state his positions.” Anyone who disagrees with that is flat out wrong, and they can review previews segments of Rachel Maddow’s show if they’d like. Rachel has not been “compromised” simply by not arguing in favor of Bernie’s candidacy and against Hillary’s candidacy. She’s a journalist, not a member of Bernie’s campaign team.

  59. goulo says:

    The false headline for obviously partisan purposes reminds me of this post Old John wrote a few years ago:

    > > >
    Lying for the Lord

    5/5/09 9:54pm by John Aravosis

    It’s a Mormon thing. It’s called Lying for the Lord. And it’s a tenet of the Mormon faith that, Mormons think, gives them to the right to tell you a bald-faced lie, so long as it’s a lie that somehow furthers the Mormon cause.
    < < <

    I think that New John is doing what Old John used to (rightly) castigate Mormons for doing: lying for the cause.

  60. Polly_Tics says:

    Webster, perhaps your prognostication of another’s life without conscience, merely because they hold a differing view; might just be the teeniest, tinniest bit biased. That wise old character, Atticus Finch, always said “you never really know a man until you stand in his shoes and walk around in them”. Good rule…

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  62. hiker_sf says:

    It’s called Yellow Journalism, something that has limited John’s career options.

  63. James S.S. says:

    So Bernie should run as an independent then, since the majority of Americans want a third party candidate to run. And, I agree, it is about us. The political establishment, unfortunately, does not represent us. It represents Wall Street, corporate America, the wealthy few.

  64. Lewis Gannett says:

    I don’t know. I’d like to know. It’s a much wider issue, of course, the mischaracterization of the Nevada convention as a wild mob scene. But here we are at AmericaBlog, and so the question is: Why is this site distorting the facts?

  65. Moorezart says:

    Gosh, John, will you please stop harping on this? I’m in CA (Green Party) and have every intention of writing in Sanders when I vote. My Independent partner is too. If Sanders takes CA it won’t really matter, as I understand the math, but the message will be heard. We’ll vote for Clinton in the general election, having no other choice, but we’ll be holding our noses.

  66. Don Chandler says:

    If Hillary were a decades-long supporter of gays, she would have never said that Nancy and Ronald helped deal with the AIDS crisis…I mean, that was so so so bad a gaffe. She might be getting old and needs more attentive minders like I guess Ronnie needed.

  67. Don Chandler says:

    I’ve met a lot of folks that are voting for whoever wins the nomination. The passion for either candidate is lacking but the reality of a trump presidency is obvious. Trump likes Scalia and Thomas as SCOTUS judges…enough said. I also know some Trump supporters and they haven’t hit me over the head with a chair…yet;)

    Some folks really like what Bernie says but they can’t quite pull the lever for him. I can.

  68. TheNeedle says:

    Clinton won’t pick Sanders or Warren. Her “base” won’t stand for it. Clinton’s people loathe both of them.

    If there’s going to be any hope for a progressive movement that takes on the big money interests in politics, it won’t be in the Democratic Party. They now react to the very idea with vicious scorn.

    Time to get organizing.

  69. TheNeedle says:

    “My own feeling is you don’t win votes if you call people dumb or idiots or immature … “violent” qualifies as unproductive. So if you are alienating Bernie supporters, where is the benefit?”

    From dealing with Clinton supporters in the past few days, I can only come to conclusion that they don’t care about alienating Bernie supporters. They hate them with a bitter and deathless hatred. They’re willing to go to any lengths to slander, deride, dismiss and insult them. They’ve convinced themselves they can win without them.

    A third party is the only way to show them they’re wrong.

  70. Don Chandler says:

    Typical definition of internet troll found on wiki:

    n Internet slang, a troll (/ˈtroʊl/, /ˈtrɒl/) is a person who sows discord on the Internet by starting arguments or upsetting people, by posting inflammatory,[1] extraneous, or off-topic messages in an online community (such as a newsgroup, forum, chat room, or blog) with the deliberate intent of provoking readers into an emotional response[2] or of otherwise disrupting normal on-topic discussion,[3] often for their own amusement.

    I really do think John is finding some level of enjoyment. My own feeling is you don’t win votes if you call people dumb or idiots or immature … “violent” qualifies as unproductive. So if you are alienating Bernie supporters, where is the benefit? Hillary hasn’t won yet and she needs to concede the race has been very close. The race is so close that Hillary evidently doesn’t want to debate Bernie with California looming. Maybe she is tired at her age or maybe she isn’t indefatigable like Bernie and Trump.

  71. Opinionated Cat Lover says:

    To make a Third Party work, there’s gonna need to be lots of setup work done. If you don’t, you get Steven Harper, a Conservative who won Canada’s elections with a 40% vote (because the Liberal and NDP split the vote 30/30). And if you try to do it this election? Say Hello to President Trump. I’ll be in New Zealand if that happens.

    Of course, maybe we’ll end up with a Clinton/Sanders or Clinton/Warren ticket and all this argument will be moot.

  72. Opinionated Cat Lover says:

    Where did I ever say he was a saint? Here’s a hint for ya. The President passes jack schidt. Got that?

    The President does do something though. The President makes wars, sometimes without congressional approval. The President sets national intelligence policies. The President appoints other leaders who handle such things as overseeing businesses and making sure our environment is protected. And most important of all, the President uses the Bully Pulpit to browbeat his own party and show up the other party, and get legislative agendas pushed in congress.

    I personally believe that Hillary’s priorities in the above will be between Trump and Sanders. She’s going to appoint her friends and back-scratchers to all those important positions, and lots of people are gonna get rich while lots more, including you and I, will struggle where we are. I think she’s going to find even more resistance to her agenda than Sanders will, simply because of her last name and the hatred the Right has for her. I think she’s going to end up using that resistance to push a convenient war in the Middle East. That war will set up for future conflicts, which will empower Republicans. And she’s going to advocate for ‘incremental’ changes, which, while better than what Trump will advocate for, will be less than what Sanders will advocate for.

    I stand by my argument that your attitude towards Sanders is driving them away from the eventual nominee. I stand by the assertion that this only helps to energize Trump. Like James said, you must be a troll. I disagree what faction you’re with, though. I personally think you are a Trumpet. As in, a loud, obnoxious tool played by a narcissistic jerk. As opposed to a trumpet, which is a musical instrument. :)

  73. TheNeedle says:

    “Wow. You really think this will get Sanders supporters on your side? Calling them as no better than Trump supporters? SERIOUSLY?!”

    It’s clear that progressives and millennials have no place in the Democratic Party any more. But as the man said: don’t mourn. Organize.

    It’s time for a third party.

  74. TheNeedle says:

    Or Washington Monthly. It’s Hill-Bully Heaven over there.

  75. TheNeedle says:

    Why do you think?

  76. TheNeedle says:

    It’s not trolling. Trolling implies some degree of insincerity and just doing it “for the lulz.”

    Hillary’s supporters truly despise progressives and millennials. Their contempt for young liberals is obvious, it’s sincere, and it is even more virulent than the most vicious Teabagger.

    The Democratic party has told its future, in no uncertain terms, to sod off.

  77. emjayay says:

    I’m once again wondering if Mrs. Sanders has remembered which drawer those old tax returns were put in. I haven’t been paying strict attention, and it could be that the Sanders have paid someone some of the millions of dollars of campaign cash they have to do the accounting, or find the forms, or something. Mine are right there here on the virtual desktop, or in the file cabinet in that folder marked “Taxes”, but everyone does it differently of course.

  78. emjayay says:

    Ohmygod I had no idea that because I have always voted based on the parameters of the Constitutional rather than parliamentary system designed by the country’s founders over two hundred years ago I was conscience-free.

    Suddenly I feel like I have to go to confession or something.

  79. emjayay says:


    I do not understand people who think voting is about THEM and not about US.

  80. James S.S. says:

    You must be a paid Hillary troll. Where are you getting your misinformation? Hundreds of economists back Bernie’s economic plan and believe it would stimulate economic growth. Bernie has gotten more things done in Congress than Hillary. And secondly, as he’s always said, he’s building a movement, a revolution, without which nothing can get accomplished. Face it, you’re just ignoring the facts because they don’t support your already biased opinions. He has managed to energize and mobilize more people than Obama. This is the beginnings of a political revolution. You just can’t see it. Oh, and yes, Hillary is corrupt. There’s a mountain of evidence to support that.

  81. James S.S. says:

    The corporate media and the democratic establishment have wanted to compare Bernie supporters to Trump supporters from day one. Does their spin surprise us? No. They’ve been treating Bernie and his supporters like this, and worse, from the very beginning. It actually makes me even more passionate to support Bernie and help him win when they do these things.

  82. Sally says:

    No one is pushing you anywhere. You’re choosing to believe every line St. Bernie tosses you. You do know that his plans, if enacted, would put this nation so far in debt we’d never crawl out from under it, right? Not that any of his plans would get passed. he hasn’t gotten any of them through ion 30 years in the Senate, has he? Why do you imagine that if he’s President, that changes? Who is doing the alienating here? Not Clinton. Bernie is the one making her out to be some evil witch. I guess that makes him the saint? He is not.

  83. Sally says:

    Oh dear. How has she been compromised? She’s given Bernie plenty of air time to state his positions, hasn’t she? She hasn’t been unfair to him. Frankly, the one who is unfair is Sanders. He is not now, and never was, a Democrat. He is using the party to advance himself, and his wife is making lots of money the longer he stays in. I do not find that very admirable.

  84. James S.S. says:

    So you’re saying that Bernie should run as an independent since independents didn’t get to vote for him in the primary? Is that what I understand you as saying?

  85. emjayay says:

    I do not understand making a top decades-long gay and progressive advocate into Satan by supporters of a candidate who cannot at this point remotely win the nomination of the party he recently decided to run in after many decades of pointedly not being a member.

    I do not understand advocates for a candidate being outraged that for example in New York state you don’t get to vote in a party primary when you are not a member of that party, something that I, not exactly a polysci whiz, knew when I registered to vote, and makes a whole lot of sense.

    I do not understand people being outraged about how it is totally unfair that their candidate in this case lost in the caucuses and then at the convention (a pretty convoluted and undemocratic process – Minnesota just ended their caucus system which is a lot like how we voted for everyone in 1800) when their people didn’t show up, and for many weren’t registered to the party in question.

    I do not understand people who think voting is about THEM and not about US.

  86. Amwatching2c says:


  87. Webster says:

    Is it as pleasant as it is easy to live your life without a conscience?

  88. Amwatching2c says:

    Shoot the messenger, and his cronies. Bernie’s boys act like Trumpeters. Bernie’s revolution has fizzled. Nomentum, lost cause, the plus sized lady has sung.

  89. Webster says:

    I, for one, have certainly had my consciousness raised this primary season. I once trusted Aravosis completely (and others like Joan Walsh and Rachel Maddow, for that matter), and expected that I would be receiving intellectually honest hard facts, and a clear-eyed, forthright, honed look at what was genuinely going on in the political landscape. I also expected an authentic progressive weltanschauung that spoke to what constituted the best of us and what was best for us as a nation and a people.

    I have been surprised — and deeply disappointed. Walsh, I can understand somewhat as she has a daughter working in the Hillary campaign, and in Rachel’s case there’s the corporate Comcast money — but I never even imagined that John would not only turn his back on the ideals of progressivism, but would spread weak propaganda against its ideals as well. This has been a profoundly dispiriting experience…

  90. Amwatching2c says:

    If you look closely, the chair in question was taken from the thrower by someone in a blue shirt, the same color as the security officers’.

  91. An incident of this type is surely a plus for Donald Trump!

  92. Moderator4 says:

    I am assuming that 2karmanot is referring to the blog Joe My God.

  93. Don Chandler says:

    John, like the internet, it was probably a trump heckler that wanted to make bernie’s followers look bad…or a hillary bot. As folks on the blog have said, it’s easy to play the troll and alienate bernie followers from hillary by calling them violent, stupid, radical, unrealistic, immature. But to play this troll, you have to descend yourself.

  94. Blogvader says:


  95. 2karmanot says:

    Good thing you are not a campaign advisor. Sorry Charlie, the old No Clinton is a vote for Dtrumpf canard is so thread bare it can’t stand except in ridicule.

  96. 2karmanot says:

    Same. If you think the hate fest here is bad, visit JMG and weep. It’s sad really.

  97. Lewis Gannett says:

    “Video shows Sanders-supporting chair thrower at Nevada Dem convention.” What chair-thrower? No one threw a chair. Why is AmericaBlog spreading misinformation?

  98. TiberiusB says:

    A chair (one…just one) was raised by one guy! Which is almost
    Which is practically a riot! A selectively edited video of an incident
    acknowledged long before Samantha Bee aired it (it’s been shown on CNN
    and MSNBC, I believe) that shows Sanders
    supporters literally defusing one man’s temper with hugs is proof that
    John’s been right all along? Seriously, this is the entire case
    regarding the Nevada “riot”?

    That swirling sound is someone’s integrity going down the toilet…

  99. Bronxboy47 says:

    The chair was raised but never thrown. The dude was immediately and lovingly prevented from throwing the chair by other Sanders supporters. Further more, he allowed himself to be dissuaded from throwing the chair without any resistance. No matter how you try to spin this, it’s not the horrifically damning incident you’re trying to make it appear.

  100. Blogvader says:

    I feel similarly, but I’ll vote even if it’s a write-in protest vote for Bernie or a vote for Jill Stein.

  101. Blogvader says:

    Sadly, character assassination works.

    Swift-boating, baby. Dig it.

  102. Blogvader says:

    Selectively-edited videos.

    Not just for conservatives anymore, clearly.

  103. Bill_Perdue says:

    It’s going to be more of a circus than usual but after it’s over nothing will change no matter who wins.

    “A new scientific study from Princeton researcher Martin Gilens and Northwestern researcher Benjamin I. Page has finally put some science behind the recently popular argument that the United States isn’t a democracy any more. And they’ve found that in fact, America is basically an oligarchy.

    Comparing the preferences of the average American at the 50th percentile of income to what those Americans at the 90th percentile preferred, as well as the opinions of major lobbying or business groups, the researchers found out that the government followed the directives set forth by the latter two much more often. It’s beyond alarming.

    As Gilens and Page write, ‘the preferences of the average American appear to have only a minuscule, near-zero, statistically non-significant impact upon public policy.’ In other words, their statistics say your opinion literally does not matter.”

    This isn’t a democracy and elections don’t change anything. For both parties, things are going to get more and more interesting.

  104. ninjakiller says:

    Thanks for pointing this out. I’ll be sitting this election out, cause i’m done supporting corporate shills like Hillary. Also, please do start with the “If you don’t vote for Hillary, it’s like you’re voting for Trump” stuff soon. Being repeatedly attacked by sites like this one, which frankly is a fucking joke now, really unifies a base, and the different factions within it.

  105. dansker says:

    How convenient that you cut the video off before the point where it showed the man with the chair lowering it to the floor and hugging it out with the people who persuaded him that non-violence was the only way to go.

  106. Opinionated Cat Lover says:

    Yeah. You’re just here to troll. So, I’ll leave you with the call of your people. TROOOOLOLOLOL

  107. icanhazconservative? says:

    My goodness you shouldn’t let people have so much power over you to a degree you have an inner struggle over whether to make a smart decision to choose the lesser of two evils. My opinion of Sanders isn’t affected by his supporters, and if he was the nominee I would have no qualms voting for him based on the principle I don’t want a lunatic running the country, not because Sanders’ wild-eyed supporters are unpleasant and nasty, particularly when they failed to game the Nevada delegates and then acted as if they were victims.

  108. Opinionated Cat Lover says:

    You don’t need to care about those 30%. They’re likely Operation Chaos style agents, voting for Sanders to prolong the primary fight like they did in 2008 for Clinton to prolong that fight.

    But what about the other 70%? I agree with you. Trump would make Clinton seem like the best candidate ever, but I’m a minority in Sanders supporters, and listening to people like you makes me question that over and over again. Fortunately, I happen to like where I’m living, so I won’t stay home, let alone vote Trump, but boy, do you make me wish I could stay home, just to wipe that arrogant smirk right off your face.

    Fortunately, my logic is stronger than my emotions, and I will vote Clinton in the General. But your asshattish behavior, and that of your fellow Clinton supporters may be too much for people whose pride is stronger than their horror at what this election has become.

    PS: Operation Chaos was a really interesting program back in ’08. It had the usual Republican crossovers who, now that the Primary was decided for Team Red, went and voted for Clinton on Team Blue’s side. They also had the “Clinton Supporters” who screamed IMA GONNA VOTE *MCCAIN!!1!1* when it became obvious that Obama was winning. And then there was the third group: “Obama Supporters” who got all mega-nasty at the “Clinton Supporters” (and the real Clinton supporters), in an attempt to stir up ugly.

    The “Sanders Supporters for Trump” (your ‘30%’ guess) would be an example of the same kind of people who screamed “IMA GONNA VOTE MCCAIN!!!11” in ’08, plus a few Republicans crossing over for good measure.

    You? I think you’re equivalent to that nasty “Obama Supporter” giving off nasty vibes just to piss off Sanders supporters. Maybe even a different sock on the same Trump supporter’s hand.

    Maybe you want to be careful accusing Sanders supporters of being Trumpets, after all, huh? It’s SO easy to turn that back around on you.

    Now, let’s see if you continue making me think you’re actually a disguised Trumpet.

  109. icanhazconservative? says:

    I’m not sure what my feelings about Sanders supporters and their arrogance has anything to do with party policy (unless you think I’d try to work in a specific policy about Sanders supporters…?) But please spare me the silly victim card that Sanders supporters have been treated like crap. They are as vitriolic and pie-in-the-sky as Trump supporters as this stage, full of anger and bile. Meh, 10 million votes? Who knows–I think Hillary will win in a landslide and polls are not only meaningless this far out (especially national polls–we don’t elect presidents nationally), but are especially meaningless in this bizarre election year. But like I said, not voting for Clinton is voting for Trump, and I would not be surprised if a minority of Sanders supporters (usually around 30% when asked) voted for Trump.

  110. Opinionated Cat Lover says:

    Because if you did, Trump would be the winner. That’s what it has to do with this. But don’t worry your pretty little head about it. After all, it’s arrogant of Sanders supporters to think they’ve been treated like crap throughout the election and not come crawling back to Clinton’s camp. It’s not like Clinton needs those 10 million votes, amirite? /s

  111. 2karmanot says:

    The only person arrested was a Clinton supporter who attacked a Bernie supporter.

  112. Phil in FLL says:

    June 7th, two weeks from now, is indeed the day when things get wrapped up. I don’t think there will be any suspense at all concerning the only remaining primary on June 14th, which is the District of Columbia primary. The Democratic vote in D.C. is mostly African-American, which will certainly give most of the D.C. delegates to Hillary. The week between June 7th and June 14th will probably most useful for people in the Clinton and Sanders campaign to meet quietly behind closed doors, which would be productive in and of itself.

  113. Opinionated Cat Lover says:

    That video doesn’t show what you say it shows. Instead, it shows an angry Sanders supporter picking up a chair, being talked down by another, and then putting that chair down. Are tensions high? Sure. It’s hard to fight as hard as Sanders and his supporters have, and then come in so..damn…short. It’s worse when it really does feel like the deck is stacked against you. And the worst part of all is that you see Clinton running neck and neck with Trump in the General, with her unlikability numbers only slightly lower than Trump’s, and you realize that had you just pushed a tiny bit harder in this contest or that, it might have been Clinton on the losing end of a 300 delegate shortfall.

    I can think of only one person who benefits from this, though. Donald J. Trump. You keep pushing Sanders supporters away. Trump appreciates this.

  114. 2karmanot says:

    Sad to see Aravosis in the weeds of Clinton propaganda.

  115. TheNeedle says:

    Neither did Sanders’ supporters. That’s been long debunked.

  116. 2karmanot says:

    No, we through flowers

  117. icanhazconservative? says:

    Um, okay, what does that have to do with anything?

  118. 2karmanot says:

    Rachel is long overdue for a Pulitzer. I admire her greatly, but am sad to see her being increasingly compromised by her Hillary support.

  119. 2karmanot says:

    Same here…Voted for Bernie

  120. JKingle says:

    It happened. Your team did it. How is that bashing? The denial is nearly as bad as the actual event.

  121. Opinionated Cat Lover says:

    Fortunately, you don’t get to make policy decisions for the Democratic Party.

  122. Opinionated Cat Lover says:

    Neither did this guy, if the video is any indication. ;)

  123. annmae says:

    hippies dont throw chairs.

  124. Phil in FLL says:

    Agreed. I will say that throughout this season, Rachel Maddow has provided fair coverage, as she did in the clip that Skycat included in his comment below. I’ve always thought that she has great insight into American politics.

  125. BeccaM says:

    June 7th can’t get here soon enough…

    Early voting in my state (NM) is open already. Did my civic duty today.

  126. Phil in FLL says:

    The point goes to you, Skycap. It looks like the Rachel Maddow Show covered this before John Aravosis did, although I don’t expect bloggers to be able to watch every single news show that’s out there. At the 5:52 mark in the Rachel Maddow clip that you included, the Bernie supporter says the following:

    “If you look at the videos, you have not seen a video of anyone throwing chairs at one person or another. I have seen a video of somebody picking up a chair and somebody on team Bernie asking him to set it down and getting a hug from the person who had picked up the chair.”

    The video that the Bernie supporter watched and described is the video that John Aravosis included in his post. I hadn’t watched this particular Rachel Maddow segment myself.

  127. icanhazconservative? says:

    Lol – you really think I’m going to beg Sanders supporters to “my side”? This notion anyone needs to come crawling to you is pretty arrogant. They’ll have two choices come November: Trump or Clinton. Anything but a vote for Clinton is a vote for Trump. And given the mentality of Sanders supporters, I wouldn’t be surprised if they voted for Trump in one way or another.

  128. TheNeedle says:

    Back? When did it stop? Hippie punching’s gotten to be the norm.

  129. Opinionated Cat Lover says:

    I see we’re back to Bernie Bashing here. Guess my return was too early

  130. Opinionated Cat Lover says:

    Wow. You really think this will get Sanders supporters on your side? Calling them as no better than Trump supporters? SERIOUSLY?!

    Trump is a cancer on the rear of American society, feeding off the bigotry and hatred many people have for people unlike them. He does tap into a feeling that Sanders taps into as well — the feeling that maybe, just maybe, America isn’t living up to its promises. Granted, Trump and Sanders have different ideas as to why: Sanders points to multinationals with deep pockets and deeper greed, while Trump points to Muslims and Immigrants. Comparing Sanders or his supporters to Trump shows a stunning lack of perspective…

  131. Skycat says:

    Here’s another point of view about the Nevada fiasco:

  132. Iain Tweedy says:

    When I’m afraid for my life I tend to blow air kisses too. It’s a nervous tic.

  133. Iain Tweedy says:

    Typical Aravosis nonsense – you can’t be a “chair-thrower” if you don’t actually throw a chair. How about a link to the video of the “fearful” Barbara Boxer blowing sarcastic kisses to the Bernie supporters on her way out, John? Also, given that there were a large amount of police there, you’d figure an arrest or two may have taken place if there was violence.

  134. icanhazconservative? says:

    You guys are as bad as Trump supporters. And you complain that your efforts to game the Nevada delegates failed. Such hypocrites, just like Bernie pretending to be anti-war.

  135. No, we said no chairs were thrown, and no chairs were thrown. You think this is a NEW video? We’ve had it since the day after the event. It wasn’t thrown. A Bernie BRO talked the guy down, and they hugged it out. What else you got? NOTHING!

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