Jill Stein in Moscow criticized US human rights, said nothing about Russian human rights

Green party Jill Stein, who has expressed skepticism about the safety of vaccinations and wifi, has found another thing in the world that she finds dangerous: America.

And Stein decided to go to Moscow last winter to share her concerns.

And, what do you know, she’s happy to report she found an audience that agrees with her!

UPDATE: The Kremlin is now defending Stein, and attacking me, as a result of this article. That speaks volumes about just how important a tool Putin finds Stein for both his propaganda war and for helping Trump this election.

Stein’s report from Moscow is in the video below. She went to attend a conference hosted by the Russian state propaganda organ. In a sign of the importance Moscow put on the conference, Putin himself joined Stein and other attendees for dinner.

Green party presidential candidate Jill Stein criticizes the US in Moscow. (Is that a dead animal around her neck?)

Green party presidential candidate Jill Stein criticizes the US in Moscow. (Is that a dead animal around her neck?)

From Moscow, Stein noted that we “need to rein in US exceptionalism, and totally reform and revise our foreign policy so that it is based on international law, human rights and diplomacy.” Making those comments from Moscow, at this time, is rather unconventional, unless you work for Donald Trump.

With Red Square as her backdrop, Stein suggested that we need to “replace a US policy of domination with a way forward based on respect, collaboration, international law and human rights.”

She added, “we’ve seen that vision really resonate here.”

Oh I bet you did.

In fact, according to the video Stein published, Putin agrees with her:

Jill Stein putin

You’ll note in the video below, where Stein reports on what she said at the conference, that she only criticized the US.

Stein has nothing negative to say about Russian foreign policy, or Russia’s horrific lack of respect for human rights — Putin has journalists and other opponents killed. And we all know the way Putin treats LGBT people. Yet Jill Stein had nothing to say about any of that. She was too focused on criticizing the US at a conference put together by the Kremlin’s propaganda agency.

Heckuva job, Jill.

PS And for any of you feeling the Bern, Stein’s VP thinks Bernie Sanders is a white supremacist capitalist imperialist.

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417 Responses to “Jill Stein in Moscow criticized US human rights, said nothing about Russian human rights”

  1. Spiny Norman says:

    “McCarthy-ite goons.”

    Imbecile. McCarthy was right-wing — and his fans still are. Ann Coulter, one of Trump’s major proxies, wrote an entire book about how much she idolizes McCarthy and his tactics.

  2. Spiny Norman says:

    Russia is not “red.” It is not remotely “red.”

    It is a petro-kleptocracy with a murderous authoritarian strongman as its President.

    Have you been asleep since 1989? If you have, that’s the year the Soviet Union ceased to exist.

  3. Daniel Alexander Lugo R says:

    Go go go Jill!!! We believe in you. We the people!

  4. Houndentenor says:

    No, Hillary does not take money from the Saudis. The Clinton Foundation has taken donations from the Saudis. None of the Clintons takes any kind of salary from the Foundation. Since when did leftists start cribbing right wing talking points? I honestly can’t tell whether I’m talking to a left-wing or right-wing idiot these days.

    And yes, she was late to the marriage equality position. Fortunately like many other Americans she came around on that issue. If no one could evolve on gay rights we’d still not have gay rights at all. I’m glad people can change their minds.

  5. 99%er says:

    Where? Like in Saudi Arabia? Honduras (look up Berta Cáceres)? Libya?

  6. 99%er says:

    Meanwhile, Hillary takes money from the Saudis, which represses women. As for gay rights, she only recently changed her view that marriage should be between a man and a woman.

  7. Ferry_Fey says:

    Uh, if the text I quoted that was featured on Jill Stein’s Russia video is a “hit piece” that “doesn’t reflect Jill at all,” she’s shooting herself in the foot, since she features it on her campaign website.

  8. John Richard Clinton Maenpaa says:

    Just because you’re paranoid, doesn’t mean we’re not out to get you…

  9. Aaron Maxwell says:

    you are an expert level idiot

  10. WithheldName says:

    It looks like the Greens currently only have mayors and serve on city councils and in other local offices (http://www.gp.org/officeholders). This year, it looks like Jill Stein will receive 7 million votes, twice as many as Nader ever received. Her support has quintupled since her last run and has tripled so far this year and is still growing. If the Greens continue to grow like this, they could have a notable influence on politics in the upcoming decades. Bernie Sanders gained 15 million supporters on a platform that was about 90% overlap with the Green platform. Like Sanders, the Greens refuse corporate donations – but have done so for decades. If they could get organized and get exposure, there are enough voters in the U.S. who support Green ideals to win state and national offices.

  11. Houndentenor says:

    Libertarians often have been good on gay issues and not just recently. Alas, neither the Greens nor the Libertarians carry any weight in our politics. Does either party even have a seat in a state legislature?

  12. WithheldName says:

    The Green Party has been way ahead of the Democrats on LGBTQIA+ rights for years. They were calling for marriage equality over a decade ago, if I’m not mistaken.

  13. WithheldName says:

    Let’s talk honestly here. Putin’s opening his arms to the American Green Party is no reflection on any sort of Green Party “loyalty” to Russia or any sort of “collusion” with Russia. It simply means Putin would love to see the American Green Party gain power. Any guesses why? It’s not hard to guess; the Green Party is heavily influenced by Bernie-style, European-style democratic socialism. The Green Party wants to ease off the American-led nuclear arms race and cool down the American-led wars in the Middle East. Both of those would be good for Russia. And that’s not a bad thing. The Green Party doesn’t want to surround, starve, and crush Russia. The Green Party wants to live and let live. Should we be suspicious of Russia? Probably. Should we care if Putin is warmly receiving Jill Stein? Absolutely not.

  14. WithheldName says:

    This sounds like more guessing and first impressions. I’ve seen hours of Jill’s interviews and speeches. Check them out with an open mind and form your own opinion. This Russian video above was just a cheap snippet wrapped around a planned narrative. It was a hit piece. This doesn’t reflect Jill at all.

  15. WithheldName says:

    Maybe from just seeing this video one might think that. But this wasn’t her finest moment. She’s actually pretty sharp. She has lots of interviews on YouTube and you can make up your own mind.

  16. Claude Jacques Bonhomme says:

    Interesting, then, that Democratic-appointees on the Supreme Court voted against so-called Citizens United, and Republican-appointees voted for it and carried the day. Yes, there are corporate interests within the Democratic party, but they are less extreme than those of the Republican party.

    For war, both parties have had their ample share of hawkish moments. In most recent memory, the W administration got into an illegal war, giving a big f.u. to most of the allies, for purely corporate Haliburton concerns. That is quite unprecedented.

  17. WithheldName says:

    This video wasn’t her finest moment. I’ve seen hours of her interviews and speeches and I think she’s pretty sharp, at least most of the time. If you haven’t seen much more of her than this video, check out more with an open mind and I bet you appreciate more about her.

  18. WithheldName says:

    Amazingly enough, most Democrats that I talk to have zero clue about the Obama war machine. They’re still fuming about Bush’s invasions and think that Obama is the guy who won the Nobel Peace Prize and “ended Bush’s 2 wars”. Because MSNBC, CNN, ABC, WP, and the NYT don’t exactly spill the beans on Obama’s war machine, do they? Because they fear that doing so might unwittingly help the Republicans or appear racist or make people sad or lose ratings. The Democratic Party today thrives on apathy, conformity, and limited information. For most people today, the Democratic Party is the cool one to belong to, with all the rappers and actors and young people. It’s like the “Pepsi Generation” marketing campaign. The Republicans are “uncool, rednecks, church-going, old white people”. Most Democrats today don’t even know what the TPP stands for and think that Obama and Hillary are fighting to stop Climate Change. Our democracy has been hijacked by successful corporate marketing.

  19. Brian Hicks says:

    John Aravosis, did you read all the little news clippings during the second half of the video? Stein does criticize Russia. She compares it to the United States in terms of spending more money on war and it’s military than it does on the welfare and well-being of it’s people. As a Green Party supporter, I have been getting concerned at the GP’s increasingly regular defense of Russia – such as siding with Russia during the invasion of Ukraine, while all the European Green parties sided with Ukraine – but in this instance Stein is basically calling out both sides.

  20. Contisertoli says:

    Uh yeah, we “didn’t want to badly enough”. Or are you forgetting HRC loving herself some DOMA as recently as 2008?

    And all the BS about “adults can get to work”? Please. I look forward to TPP and all that other “adult” bullshit that just further comforts the obscenely wealthy at the expense of those on the margins. But oh, she just sounds so progressive!

    Enjoy all that incremental “progress”.

  21. baruchzed says:

    Red baiting is so last century…and truly a sign of desperation and lack of imagination. Shilling for Clinton, the most corrupt candidate ever to run for the US Presidency, should be a source of embarrassment for the author of this foolishness.

  22. You are a cheap shill. If you are an example of what passes for an ‘American’ today, then I’m moving overseas. The US is going down the drain because of people like you.

  23. Jill Stein was saying that Putin agreed with her that US and Russia must engage in greater dialogue and collaboration to try to resolve
    security threats constructively and allow better conditions for people
    of the world, but still in the opinion of Aravosis the a-hole, Putin agrees
    with her so she should be condemned.

  24. LOL!!!! That’s a good one! In case you haven’t noticed, the Democratic party has been a party of pro-corporate sell-outs and pentagon wh0r3s for at least a few decades now. What have the democrats done to promote peace in the world, or go against the status quo. Name one thing. Come to think of it, it is traditionally the democratic presidents who were the biggest warmongers.

  25. Russia isn’t any worse towards homosexuals than the US, so everyone just needs to get the f off their creaky pedestals. This whole schtick about Russia being tyrannical towards gays is just a smear campaign tactic; has been from day one. No one is the US regime, past and present gives a hoot about gays in Russia. It’s just a stick to poke Russia with because Russia refuses to take orders from the US. Peel away all the BS and false accusations, and that’s what it is, and ever was all about.

  26. I’ve seen pictures of Killary meeting with Putin. So according to her, she is a Putin spy herself, right?

    All of you supporting this wicked witch of the west should be ashamed of yourself. Who are you? You are just as pathetic and stupid as all those people who went ga-ga for old GWB.

    You are morons.

  27. SocraticGadfly says:

    Aravosis becoming an ever-more-pathetic Hillbot and general douche.

  28. kingbtd says:

    Julian Assange spoke at the Green Party convention, and he already warned of us of sociopaths like yourself, Mr. Aravosis. It’s too bad that so many twisted individuals like yourself have a voice, but those are the kinds of freedoms people like Assange and Stein are still trying to protect. I would feel sorry for you if you weren’t so evil…banally evil. Cheers to you, Mr. Goebbels! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-RT_djNa5lQ

  29. Bill_Perdue says:

    Since the us is not a democracy our work should be aired at creating one.

  30. WithheldName says:

    Yawn. A non-story here. Her criticisms of American policy are A) basically accurate, and B) consistent with what she’s said for years. So you want her to criticize Russia while standing in Red Square? She was trying to build bridges with Russia. It’s a good idea. Maybe next time the author should ease off the click-bait journalism and delve into some more substance.

  31. Since before Mirdad left the building, he questioned my “geopolitical sensibilities” to have any idea what’s going on in Russia, so I had prepared the following response:

    No, I got my geopolitical sensibilities by learning to speak 5 languages while getting a JD and MSFS at the Georgetown School of Foreign Service (I studied Russian too, but don’t speak it, so it’s not counted as number 6), passing the US Foreign Service exam, then going to work in the US Senate on arms control issues, among other topics, and at the UN, interning at CSIS, a US Embassy, the Italian Embassy. Traveling around the world training NGOs. Oh yeah, and travel to the USSR, Russia and Eastern Europe too. For starters.

    Other than that, no background on the issue whatsoever.

  32. Opinionated Cat Lover says:

    The problem I have is someone here dividing the liberal vote because the liberal candidate who got picked by ALL Democrats isn’t liberal enough for you. Right now, I don’t care about what goes on in Syria, because right here in the US, there’s a Fascist trying to win the Election. If Trump wins, you’ll have wars with far more than Syria. Unlike you, I am fully happy to move partially towards my goal rather than take massive steps back because other Democrats picked the less favorable candidate.

    My problem is not with that, though. It’s with you. Your holy crusade for the pure Liberal is daaaamn convenient for the Shitgibbon and his legion of followers. THAT is why I’m calling you a right-wing troll. It’s awful convenient that you’re working to depress Clinton’s votes…makes it MUCH easier to get Trump into office. But I tell you what. Get Stein up to 40% in the polls, and I’ll change my tune. Until then? You’re helping Trump. Good bye!

  33. mirdad says:

    You defend the joker who thought I was a Russian, and call me a right wing troll for supporting progressive policies and candidates. I can’t wait until this BS election is over. Perhaps then you will be forced to talk about issues instead of endless stupid fearmongering and dragging the so-called liberal party further and further into a right wing gutter, continuing in the time honored tradition of the last President Clinton. Please do tell how overthrowing the govt. of Syria with bunch of militia gangsters is going to be so, so, so much better than if a Republican did it. The problem you have is that your candidate has a long track record of service, full of atrocious judgements and extremely destructive policies. You want to talk about anything but that. I get it.

  34. Jeromie Hartsough says:

    When the U.N. points out our human rights violations nobody cares. Jill Stein does it and everybody loses their mind. Shouldn’t she care about this country and its problems? It’s a pretty sorry hit piece that attempts to smear a candidate for caring about the citizens of her country.

  35. Opinionated Cat Lover says:

    Here’s the thing, trolikins. If you were here saying, “Vote hard-core Liberal and Green down-ticket, even as you vote for the crook at the top”, I’d have much less beef with you. But you’re not talking about that. In fact, you only reluctantly bring up Team Red when confronted with what you’re doing — tanking the only realistic left-leaning candidate because she’s not left-leaning enough for how you portray yourself on the Internet, with your profile that suggests the ONLY thing you care about is politics (hint: that makes you look like a troll).

    Stein won’t win. End of line. She barely manages to get above 1%. For all your talk about how hated Clinton is, your candidate can’t manage to get off the ground floor, and for good reason. Every Clinton voter you manage to hoodwink into Stein because ‘Clinton isn’t liberal enough’ is one less vote that Trump has to con. hoodwink, and outright make up to win. It’s one less vote to say Trump is purely unacceptable. What you’re trying to do is peel Clinton voters off of Stein, so that it splits the Liberal vote. Fortunately, many of us Liberals study world politics enough to know what this leads to — a Liberal party saying the New Democratic Party is too liberal, while the NDP says the Libs aren’t liberal enough, splitting up 55 to 60% of the vote, allowing the Conservatives with 40 to 45% of the vote to surge ahead and form the government. It’s the same thing here in the US. If the Green manages to peel 10% off of the 45% of the vote the Democrats get, then even with 10% of the vote going to Team Libertarian, the 40% that votes for the Cheeto’d Dictator gets their wish, which helps the Shitgibbons that support Il Duce, Il Duce Shitgibbon himself, every tinpot-Fascist who ever dreamed of the Beacon of Liberty itself going over to Fascism, proto-Fascist Putin who has a personal beef against Clinton, and every other anti-Liberal racist, nativist, fascist, jingoist asshat in the US and around the world. You know who it hurts? Every liberal, leftist, moderate, and sane American citizen, including the Greens and the Libertarians.

    You, ‘mir’dad, are here arguing that CLINTON BAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAD. What purpose does it serve? You’re not getting Jill Stein elected. We’ve already covered that. We should be kissing the feet of the Libertarians because they’re spoiling Trump the same way you’d spoil Clinton if you got your way. No. You’re here to split the Liberal vote, pushing hopes for a Liberal Utopia that doesn’t exist in the real world. Either you’re a deluded Green who needs to be exposed as the fool you are, or, far, far, far more likely, you’re a Rightie plant that needs to be exposed as the manipulative jerk you are.

    Short answer, trolikins? We aint’ buyin’ what you’re sellin’ here. John’s calling you all ruskies, because you’re at a minimum a useful idiot for Trump’s dear friend Putin. I’m just going to skip that label and go with the one I much rather. Troll.

    And I leave you with this thought. If you can’t take the heat, get out of the kitchen. ;) There are bound to be Green echochambers across the internet you can go to have your silly little notions validated. But you chose to come here. I’m here. So is John. So are all the other people who are calling you out. If you can’t take a little name calling? I invite you to go to those echo chambers. :)

    Keep on trolling on!

  36. mirdad says:

    Again, I said nothing about what she can’t do. I referred to a platform position the party has taken in response to criticism and a clear dissatisfaction by registered Democrats that resulted in support for Bernie Sanders and the policies he promoted. We know what “team red” will do, and we know what their positions are costing them in terms of public support.

    I comment on Hillary because that is the more important question. What will she do to improve a still failing health insurance system, protect the environment from the fracking craze she pushed as SoS, protect against FTAs that she has so vehemently supported in the past, which effectively deregulate industry and put decisions about public health and welfare in the hands of mega-corporations? You can’t keep claiming liberalism while tacking to the right and promoting policies that exacerbate wealth inequality and militarism, even if you do it a little less extremely than your competition.

    And if you want to tell someone how to think and how to vote and what to comment on while calling names, I suggest you stick to talking to your cats.

  37. Opinionated Cat Lover says:

    If you want to prove Jill Stein wrong how about your candidate supporting a public option for health insurance instead of more war and intervention based on lies?

    Not ranting about what Hillary can’t do.

    Obama got us something that the Republicans have fought tooth and nail against. The Republicans are in a position to fight tooth and nail because…well, people like you come in and dish on Clinton rather than going out and voting for Liberal candidates wherever you are. So now, Team Red has control of the political process. Even if Stein COULD win (hint: She can’t…all she can do is ensure Trump wins), she too would be marginalized and defanged by the GOP you’re actually helping with your rants.

    But I won’t bother explaining it to you any further. If you’re authentic American Green, you’ve already made your mind up. And since you’re much more likely to be a sock puppet polititroll, (Seriously, over 3 years, you’ve not commented on a single non-political topic? Yeah, that sure doesn’t make any sense) it’s in your best interests not to have your mind challenged.

    So, I leave you with the call of your people.


  38. mirdad says:

    I don’t rant about what Hillary can’t do. That’s you preparing political cover for when she abandons every progressive position she has given lip service to in the campaign.

    If you think her lead is solid, great. I never expected any different, which is why I intend to vote green in my blue state. And yes I vote the whole ballot and don’t expect that the President alone really means a whole hell of a lot, but growing numbers of voters leaving the major parties put of dissatisfaction with their policies does have an impact.

    Obama tried…no Obama made compromise deals with Insurance cos. to get something through, unfortunately something that doesn’t address the most fundamental problems with the health insurance system.

    “Ultimately, the public option failed as a result of many factors, including lack of support from moderate and conservative Democrats, opposition from Republicans and health care interest groups, and ultimately an absence of strong support from the White House.”

    -Health Affairs

    We’ll see if Hillary “tries” to imrpove it, beyond more neoliberal privatization of public resources and other corporate profit-making schemes. Perhaps if her voters demanded anything of her beyond not being Trump she would have some incentive.

  39. lilyhammer says:

    Don’t assume that other people haven’t done their homework.
    1) Polls say it’s a very small percent; 2) I don’t think Jill Stein is decent, logical or honorable but I think Hillary Clinton is.

  40. Jesse Larner says:

    It means “Hello comrade.”

  41. Martharsievers1 says:

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  42. Bill_Perdue says:

    I understand. And this is not meant as advice or a warning because I could care less about whether the Democrats or Republicans win (because it makes no difference at all) but just as an observation – millions of people are offended by racist islamophobia, mass deportations, bigoted laws and union busting.

  43. mirdad says:

    Wow. Boris. I get it. Like the cartoon character. Takes one to know one. Or maybe you got your geopolitical sensibilities from an old episode of Get Smart. Take that worn out old schtic back to whatever decade you dredged it up from. It appears to be causing you hallucinations.

  44. kahuna754 says:

    It’s a tiny percent. She is not personable and her ads are not helping her.

  45. kahuna754 says:

    Jill is.

  46. Moderator3 says:

    You had another comment about Soros and the Kochs. The other was removed because it was redundant.

  47. pyrophilia says:

    Late Bloomer just learning to drive at the age of 30 but Here I am after my Teacher took me all the way down Highway 26 to Highway 101


    I’m driving.

  48. Uncle Luie says:

    well we know where you are coming from

  49. Uncle Luie says:

    Excellent post.

  50. pyrophilia says:

    No one cares, Soros has used his money benevolently. It’s Koch who has used it for evil. It’s not about the Political money, it’s about how they’ve used that money.

  51. pyrophilia says:

    No one cares, Soros has used his money benevolently. It’s Koch who is evil.

  52. pyrophilia says:

    Yeah I might not get along everywhere over here but at least I don’t belong over at Redstate or Free Republic.

  53. Opinionated Cat Lover says:

    “A few points”

    The latest poll by Monmouth University (rated A+ by Fivethirtyeight) has Clinton up 13 points. Adjusting for Monmouth’s historical bias, FiveThirtyEight still has her up 12 points. I don’t know what planet you live on, but here, on Earth, 12 or 13 points, especially in this hyper-partisan country we live in, is not ‘a few points’.

    Your rant about what Hillary can or can’t do ignores a simple fact. Jill Stein her f*cking self can’t give you a public option for healthcare, or free college education, or any of the other things the Greens want. No President can, at least, not without a congress that’s happy to send that legislation to her desk. Obama tried. And thanks to jerkwads in the House and Senate, that idea came off the table really damn quick. Stein can throw a temper tantrum on national TV. The Repubs will merely laugh at her, record that sh*t for the next election, and go on doing the same BS they’ve done time and time again. Stein can’t do it. Sanders can’t do it. Clinton can’t do it. You want it done? You should have gotten Greens for Senate and House this year, which meant a deep bench of qualified candidates, which means you should have had governors and state representatives running two years ago, which would require a system in place to pick those people, so four years ago you’re utilizing your City and County organs to pick those reps and senators, which of course you build 6 years ago.

    And awfully conveniently, your ranting about how non-Liberal the Dems are is extremely helpful for the Trumpster. And you wonder why we call you Trump plants…

  54. Hey, far be it for me to tell Clinton supporters that she has this election sewn up — because it’s dangerous when your supporters think they’ve already won, they end up not turning up to vote — but you’re smoking something if you think Hillary isn’t doing well in the polls. Yet another sign that you’re part of a paid troll brigade – you couldn’t even be bothered to follow American news of the past 3 days. Hillary is ahead of Trump by 10 to 12 points right now. It’s a ridiculously large lead.

    Oh, and the expression is “sound familiar?” Not “sounds familiar,” Boris. You write “sounds familiar” in the affirmative, and “sound familiar?” in the interrogative.

    I hope they have room in the gulag for you, cuz you trolls suck at mimicking American English.

  55. mirdad says:

    For people trying to understand why Clinton supporters are starting to sound more and more like John Birchers, keep in mind that they are giving their all to support a candidate with a 50+ unfavorable rating who has spent 13.5 times as much on advertising ($50 mil + more) than her opponent and is still only ahead by a few points. What else do they have other than fear of the big boogeyman who is going to destroy America (boy, sounds familiar)? Clinton has been a connoisseur of big scary boogeyman politics for her entire career. Take a good look at a preview of her administration – rank hypocrisy, name-calling, guilt by association and aggressive, bellicose agitprop. If you want to prove Jill Stein wrong how about your candidate supporting a public option for health insurance instead of more war and intervention based on lies?

  56. Opinionated Cat Lover says:

    Oh, and we even know what kind of troll you are!

    “SJW”. Seriously. Bye, clown!

  57. joey_c says:

    1. i didn’t say “red baiting”. you’re still using ties with russia to try and smear people.

    2. as many have eloquently explained before me, the obligation that a citizen of a particular nation has is to find fault first with their own home, inasmuch as that is where they have the most influence. the practice of criticizing other nation’s human rights record while ignoring our own problems with human rights is one of our politicians’ ugliest tics. the idea that u.s. citizens have an obligaiotn to avoid criticizing the u.s. while abroad is farcical.

    3. my recollection is that while a senator and s.o.s. clinton continued u.s. relations with plenty of problematic regimes that violate people’s human rights, from egypt to honduras yemen to bahrain to turkey to saudi arabia.

    4. i only defend stein inasmuch as i find your article to be in appropriate to write about any political figure. i am not a stein supporter and do not intend to vote for her.

  58. In my dreams. Sadly, I work on my own. I did pass the Foreign Service exam, however.

  59. I’m sorry, did communism come back? You do understand that Putin isn’t a communist, as far as we know, and Russia is not communist. Now, that doesn’t mean that Putin isn’t trying to influence our election — that’s already pretty much been established. And it’s also established that Jill Stein did go to moscow, did sit with Putin, and did devote her time to criticize the US on human rights while sitting with one of the greatest human rights violators in the world. That’s not proud leadership. Hillary stood up the Chinese in 1996 when she went to Beijing. Where was Jill when we needed her?

    So if you’re going to defend Jill, and you are defending Jill here, respond to the facts. She went to a place where LGBT people, and journalists, are kidnapped and killed, and she said nothing.

  60. joey_c says:

    i thought we’d collectively decided (at least those of us who are left of center) that mccarthyism went out with mccarthy.

    i’m no fan of putin, but guilt-by-association smack-talking against a fringe 3rd party candidate just to try and smooth the path of the democratic nominee is needless, silly, and indicative of a lack of both morality and couth.

  61. Ron Chusid says:

    I see. Putin does bad things. Therefore it is ok for you to write a dishonest article such as this about Stein. Somewhere there is a serious breakdown in your logic, and ethics.

  62. Stephen Michael French says:

    yeah, not so long as Hillary and Trump control the media.

  63. Opinionated Cat Lover says:

    But you know the one thing a heterosexual can do that a gay can’t?

    They can marry the person they love.

    Rights aren’t so equal after all, are they?

    PS. Redstate is THAT WAY. —————————————>
    So is FreeRepublic. Don’t let the door hit you in the ass on the way out! :)

  64. Banjolina Violetta says:

    Hillbots are paid to post lies and obfuscate. Good jobs are hard to find….so we understand. But how does it feel, as an American, to know that you are subverting the democratic process and that you promote evil in the world?

  65. Mike Ennamorato says:

    One can be guilty of many logical fallacies at the same time, they are not exclusive to each-other.

    The fact that you refuse to even glimpse at an opposing viewpoint proves you and “your gang” is nothing more than a circle-jerk — and labeling your oppositions “trolls” or what have you yes, mean you are attempting to block them out. Credit due where credit is due, at least your Mod is not some SJW-freak who blocks (directly) any opinion that is not his, but that doesn’t make him any smarter nor reasonable.

  66. Mike Ennamorato says:

    Best question: are you (working for the State Dept.)?

  67. Opinionated Cat Lover says:

    Hey, looks like we have another Putin Troll. English. Do you speak it? :P

  68. Opinionated Cat Lover says:

    Shorter you: “I know you are but what am I?”

    Even shorter you: “TROOOOOOLOLOLOLOL!”

    And I see the goal posts have moved. From blocking to “circlejerking”. What a riot.

    If you don’t like it here, trolikins, then…well, head on out. We won’t miss you. ;)

  69. Better question: are you?

  70. Seedee Vee says:

    I hear paranoia is one step away from pedophilia, John. You should put down that crack pipe before someone gets hurt, dude.

  71. tomciviletti says:

    Whoever wrote this blog is a disinformationalist.

  72. Seedee Vee says:

    Is Hillary Actually Working For The Russian Mafia? Here is what the New York Times thinks!


  73. Seedee Vee says:

    This just in : John Aravosis is still a slimy Clinton Stooge.

  74. Update, y’all. It seems the Kremlin is vewy vewy angwy that we criticized Jill. With friends like that…


  75. Mike Ennamorato says:

    Given your pathetic and emotionally motivated response, I am sure *you* are the one being mocked.

    Not to mention the intellect of anyone who takes this site serious and/or as fact, which would seem to be severely lacking.

  76. WarrenHart says:

    Jill is a dupe who was used by Russia secret service. Jill Stein is too stupid to hold public office.

  77. George King says:

    So Mr Private, can’t see my comments you explain everything “So…we’re not blocking a damn thing.” You must be an employee or God forbid stupid troll on your own site.

  78. Pedro says:

    Cute little political spin you tried there John despite knowing nothing about me and potentially being libelous by falsely accusing me of endorsing gross human rights violations. But while we’re on the topic of human rights, maybe you’d be interested in talking about the Clintons being friends with and taking money from shady human rights violating leaders through the Clinton Foundation. Oh wait, but that’s not to the political advantage of your preferred candidate, is it?

    Your own response to my post is part of what I mean by people in Clintonland being so touchy. I say one mildly mean thing vaguely critical of your accusations of Jill Stein, and I get instantly libeled With accusations of endorsing human rights violations. If someone throws even one small amount of criticism, honestly dislikes Hillary Clinton, disagrees with her, or even tries to warn her supporters & surrogates not to underestimate Trump in the rust belt. Even some Clinton supporters aren’t spared. I was laughing hard when I saw reaction from Blue Nation Review & Neera Tanden to Michael Moore’s prediction that Trump would win in Nov. based on wins in the rust belt. It was an obvious warning to the Clinton folks not to get complacent. Yet even with him endorsing Hillary at the end of the primaries, Moore still got accused of cheering for Trump to win. Apparently even warning the Clinton campaign not to get complacent against Trump can get you in hot water. Tanden by the way, easily got her feelings hurt when Matt Bruenig said a little mean thing about her. And that was enough to get him fired from his job. Apparently, just dating to run against Hillary or disseminating facts not favorable to her is enough for one to be accused of plotting with Putin & the Russians, whether or not it’s true.

    All this is part of what I meant by touchy. And your response only further drove that point. Frankly, at this point, it’s all comedy to me. I’m at peace with the results of the primary even if they didn’t go my way & the fix was in as the DNC leaks showed. But clearly you’re not over the primary. Why else go after a small third party candidate with mere pennies in the bank compared to the Clinton money machine? Lucky for you, I’m not a high profile journalist or else I’d have a comedic field day with your libelous accusations.

  79. nicho says:

    Saddened, but not surprised, to see you’ve joined the Clinton camp’s vicious smear assault on Jill Stein. Using out of context quotes, half truths, and outright lies, Clinton is co-opting a lot of so-called liberals.

    And I’m not even a Jill supporter, just someone who is watching this disgusting scenario unfold. But I guess now we know why Bernie ended up supporting her. He most likely got the word they would end his political career and trash his legacy if he didn’t.

    Well, at least you know your invitation to the White House Holiday Party and Egg Roll will be in the mail. Enjoy the comos and cheesy poofs. All it cost was your integrity.

  80. George King says:

    You support Fascist and claim to be a fascist killer as well? I get what wanderer is saying, do you?

    The recently-revealed Russia/uranium deal involved undisclosed donations (part of a pattern, it turns out), in violation of a transparency agreement Hillary signed upon joining the State Department.

  81. Houndentenor says:

    Куда, куда вы удалились, весны моей златые дни…

  82. Andy says:

    The fact is that Hillary doesn’t feel the same way you do about ‘human rights”. What she feels strongly about is political expediency.

  83. The Russian government has enabled neo-Nazi gangs to kidnap and torture gay and trans people. Cømpare that to what the congress has done to gay and trans people, Mary. And I’m sorry, I’m have a very difficult time believing you live in Portland. You arguments are too cute by half.

  84. Sorry, but Pagans are hardly an oppressed minority in America today, and their oppression hardly compared to gay and trans being kidnapped, tortured and killed, or Putin killing his political opponents, including journalists. No, it is not the same thing that happens here that happens there. Try practicing paganism in Russia and see how well it goes.

  85. I do sing a little Russian as well

  86. Moderator4 says:

    Subsequent duplicate comments were deleted. Stop repeating yourself.

  87. pypski says:

    Bruh, it was an INTERNATIONAL invite. Where was Trump? Where was Hillary? I’ll tell you, they do not give a flying fuck about being a true ally to the globe. Jill represents the everyday American. She went to Russia to speak on behalf of us to fight for a global initiative to fight climate change. Those are the facts. If Putin agreed with her or not is irrelevant. She went to better not just the States but the world.

  88. Opinionated Cat Lover says:

    Hey, look! Another Putin Troll.

    1) Jill isn’t Anti-vax. She’s worse. She PANDERS to Anti-vaxxers. There is a sad, sad difference there. The difference is that she’s willing to spout things she knows are wrong in order to attract votes from deluded individuals. Much like you Putin and Trump Trolls that infest this blog.

    2) I’m not trying to convince YOU. You’re just a Putin Troll. I’m not trying to convince ‘Devoy’ either. He’s just a Trump Troll. You and he were never the intended audience.


  89. pypski says:

    If you did your homework you would understand: 1. It’s not a small percent. 2. We agree because she is a decent, logical, honorable human being. Can you say the same about any other candidate?

  90. pypski says:

    1. Anyone that thinks Jill is anti-vax is anti-facts. 2. You can not change or help anyone by ignoring them for fighting them. You must first become respected in their eyes so they accept your opinion and help.

  91. pypski says:

    Regardless of where he comes from, he is correct. Putin also believes in Global warming. That is why he hosted the conference.

  92. pypski says:

    Putin believes in Global warming. That is why he hosted the conference.

  93. pypski says:

    You can not help anyone by ignoring them or fighting them.

  94. pypski says:

    Putin believes in Global warming. That is why he hosted the conference. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y4R28THutKI

  95. Lux Tempo says:

    I’m trying to stay open minded about Jill Stein but I too have a big problem with a so called Green Party candidate cozying up to climate denier and human rights nightmare Putin.

  96. Bill_Perdue says:

    You Democrats gave us DADT, DOMA, attacks on unions, racist border policies with well over 2 million deportations and along with your Republican brothers and sisters have murdered well over a million muslims and Arabs.

  97. Don Chandler says:

    The worst thing about Jill Stein cozying up to Putin or Putin’s mouthpiece, RT, is that she is a green party candidate. Isn’t Putin a Climate Change denier? Russia’s main industry these days is Oil. Russia benefits from the use of oil and the ease of exploration and extraction of Oil resources. It’s even possible that Russia dreams of a warm water port at the expense of the whole world, what ever the consequence. A green party candidate can’t really stand in the same room with Putin and then rave about the dire consequences of Climate Change.

  98. Opinionated Cat Lover says:

    First, you must prove that we’re calling Putin a Communist. It’ll be far easier for you to prove we’re calling him a Republican (Putin and the American GOP seem to have the same pushbutton issues, actually… :) ), but your task here is to prove we’re calling him a COMMUNIST…which you won’t be able to…because we aren’t.

    We’re saying that a borderline Fascist demagogue in Putin is supporting our own homegrown Fascist demagogue, and using our other politicians to attempt to sway the vote so that his homeboy Trumpster can get into office, and you’re here enabling him. That’s why all of you trolls are being greeted in Russian.

    Perhaps you should examine why your candidate of choice chose to head over to Russia to criticize the United States to a foreign power. Sure pandered to the likes of you. And that’s on top of pandering to anti-vaxxers with her stupid comments about vaccinations. Guess what! Your pol panders too! Welcome to the club. ;)

  99. Opinionated Cat Lover says:

    Come back and talk to us when you can organize a campaign that will bump Jill Stein up above 40% (the ceiling for Trump’s popular vote total). Until then, every vote you do manage to peel off of Clinton’s support will be one less vote the Trumpster will have to con to con his way into office.

    In short? We ain’t buying your sh*t here. Try Redstate. :)

  100. Opinionated Cat Lover says:

    I’m a left-leaning independent, and wanted Sanders, but the bottom line is that Clinton is light-years better, for all the flaws Lefties might bring up about her, than the Cheeto-Faced Ferret-Wearing Sh*tgibbon is. End. Of. Line.

  101. Opinionated Cat Lover says:

    And a few compliments to Hillary Clinton to turn them into a rabid Corporatist Fascist that hates gays and liberals (see: Elizabeth Warren) ;)

  102. Opinionated Cat Lover says:

    I’m guessing you’re tagging this guy Russian as in ‘Russian patsey’, even if he isn’t Russian himself. I read him more as a Trumpet Troll, one of the legion of Trolls unleashed by the American Right to foul up discourse. Trollikins is still a Bridge Dweller, regardless….

  103. Opinionated Cat Lover says:

    I’d say more like Italy in the 1920s, but that works too. ;)

  104. Opinionated Cat Lover says:

    Hillary’s chances remain as strong today as they have been for the last week, even as her post-convention bounce should continue to fade.

    We’ve been here before, actually. This is old hat and old crap to all of us who were around in 2008. “IMA VOTE FOR MCCAIN!!11!!shift+one!11!one!1” Well, we saw how that worked out. We’ll see how the Jill Stein Vote works out (she barely gets above 1%, so FiveThirtyEight isn’t tracking her numbers like the other three, so that should tell you something). I won’t waste the explanation of how your vote for Stein empowers Trump. You’re not here to have your mind changed, and there’s a non-insignificant chance you’re actually a Trumpet pretending to be a dissatisfied Sanders supporter….

    PS. You have 6 downvotes, which cancels out your 6 troll friends upvotes. ;)

  105. Opinionated Cat Lover says:

    Or perhaps he’s merely saying that this benefits Russia and, more directly, Trump. He can do that, too. And hey, if you’re gonna enable the Trump Movement, maybe you SHOULD start learning how to speak Russian. While you’re at it, learn Chinese as well, because SOMEONE is going to have to stop the Cheeto-Faced Ferret-Wearer and his legions of Red-Hats before they ruin the world, and that someone will probably be Russia and China…

  106. Opinionated Cat Lover says:

    What’s dishonest about pointing out that the candidate was duped by a foreign power to criticize her own country without even a nod to the numerous criticisms about the foreign power, or pointing out that trolls pop in as soon as the article is posted and start eviscerating him and everyone who disagrees with him, using a particular bad brand of English that points to Slavic roots?

    You? You’re obviously not Russian, but you are sure blind to the shortcomings of Stein while eyes-wide-open to Clinton’s shortcoming. It’s your right, but it’s our right to point out that your choice of Stein results in direct support for a candidate who criticizes her country more than the country she criticized it to, as well as enables the guy who is very likely Putin’s choice in this election, the Cheeto-Faced One. If you don’t like that fact? Tough. You signed up for it when you posted here.

  107. Opinionated Cat Lover says:

    No, we’re not blocking anything out. You can come here and say as much stupid here as you want. We’re not blocking you. We’re *laughing* at you. The only comments no longer on this blog have either received downvote moderation flags (you can view the comment by clicking through the moderation warning) or have been deleted by the author! Your own post is still here, even though it is overflowing with pure, abject STUPID. So…we’re not blocking a damn thing.

    We’re mocking you and laughing at you and holding you up as the stupid you are, though. I guess in your little world, that’s blocking you out. That’s OK. We’ll mock that too!

  108. Opinionated Cat Lover says:

    Well, JR, if you don’t like what we’re posting here, there’s always Redstate. They LOVE Trump over there. *smirk* *has trouble stifling the uproaring laughter he really wants to let out, considering Redstate’s position on the Tiny-Fingered, Cheeto-Faced, Ferret-Wearing [CENSORED: Defecation]gibbon. :)*

  109. Opinionated Cat Lover says:

    Hah. Thanks for leaving trolikin’s post up for us to read. That was amusing. ;)

  110. Opinionated Cat Lover says:

    I agree with you. This country is filled with power-crazed, egotistical nitwit jerkwad [CENSORED: someone who wears their butt as headwear] [CENSORED: a wad of sex?] [CENSORED: that which is removed from one’s buttcrack after taking a dump] pieces of [CENSORED: defecation] pinheaded nitwits who [CENSORED: have sex with] their sisters while decrying the [CENSORED: gay people] and the [CENSORED: Black people] and the [CENSORED: Hispanics] and the [CENSORED: Arabic people]. And them’s their GOOD points. :)

    But I’m sure not going to distract myself with their [CENSORED: the action of wearing one’s butt as headwear]. I’m with Her. Full stop. I’ll not let the perfect be the enemy of the good. I will not let the trolls and the Trumpets drive the discussion. They do not have the right. I will focus on doing the only thing I can — saying no joy to the Trumpets and the Russian Troll Mafia and casting my vote for Clinton in November. I suggest you do the same as well, but that’s just my advice.

    Don’t think the Left is free of consequence for this either. You identify a problem where true left-wing politics are not represented in this country. Part of that is the Right is definitely motivated, and in many parts of the country, the Right outvotes the Left. But you know what else we have? 50% or less voter participation. If 33% of the voting public is GOP, and another 60% of the 33% of independents lean Right, but only 50% of the country votes, then you’re letting 26% of eligible voters control the direction of the country if you are a Leftie who stays home and says your vote doesn’t matter. Plenty do. And plenty are responsible for the screwup that is the US.

    We’re all responsible for this. Lack of foresight. Lack of patience. Lack of due diligence and careful thought about the best ways to get things done. In many ways, Team Blue is the Dumb Party (with Team Red being the [CENSORED: anus] Party. If you have any wonder why we have this going on? This is why.

    Like emjayay said. Perhaps your needs are to leave this country and find one with people and culture closer to the one you want. I get you. I’m sick of America, and I’m sure not going to stay around as it turns into Fascist Italy of the 21st Century under the forces that let the Trumpster become the standard bearer for Team Red. My solution for this will be to say screw America and screw the jerks on the Right who are trying to turn her into Fascist Italy, and screw the jerks on the Left who force me to pick the corporatist to avoid that fate from happening. I suggest you look into it yourself. :)

  111. Blogvader says:

    He’s demanding it from Jill Stein because it’s what John does (at least during this election): Double-standards and character assassination.

    It’s also why he responds to your critique with ‘You’re a Russian’ and to others with ‘You’re a millenial!’

    He’s in hysterics.

  112. Blogvader says:

    I respect your right to vote as you see fit. Please pay me the same courtesy.

    Thank you.

  113. emjayay says:

    Maybe you should move.

  114. Bill_Perdue says:

  115. emjayay says:

    Hillary Clinton is not an evil. Trump is. Even if a person thinks she counts as an evil, then vote for the lesser of two evils. What is better, less evil in the world or more evil? Voting is not a matter of identity and self-definition. It’s a few minutes spent making the best choice for the people of the US and world.

    Voting is not about you. It is about us.

  116. emjayay says:

    Yes I am. I thought Stonewall was in 1968. So I was a year off.

    And of course there were all kinds of other related things going on particularly in SF and LA. I lived in SF at the time – remember the not unrelated Summer of Love in 1967?. I was attempting to make the same points you are. Maybe reading my comments with a bit of irony would help. Maybe I should include smiley faces.

  117. Opinionated Cat Lover says:

    You don’t get what Wanderer is saying, but I’m not going to be wasting my time on you trying to explain it. Short answer? We’re not buying what you’re selling. You can take your Conservative link from Townhall.com and go back where you came from. :)

  118. Blogvader says:

    If that’s how our system works, then you’re REALLY going to have to do better than “If you don’t vote for my candidate than you’re voting for (insert hated party here)”.

    There’s still time.

  119. War is peace says:

    Russia again


  120. Opinionated Cat Lover says:

    Lol. Your boy Trump is making a fool and an ass out of himself day after day after day. Of all the candidates that Team Red could put up, Trump was the only one who would struggle against Clinton. Of course, in a way, you brought us Hillary. Had Team Red come to its senses and picked Kasich (or even Cruz, vile though he may be), we’d not be seeing these 5 to 10 point advantages for Clinton.

    So, either you’re one of Team Red’s sad sack trolls, or you’re a Putin Troll, which makes you amazingly more sad sack than Team Red’s trolls. Regardless, we ain’t buyin’ what you’re selling here. Try Redstate. They might listen more to your trolling over there. *smirk* Or they’ll ban you like the idiot you are, more likely. Haha. Bye now!

  121. emjayay says:

    Clinton was probably afraid of a quasi-coup from the military brass and a huge uproar in Congress making it impossible to pass anything ever. Often you can’t get too far ahead in a democracy, particularly one equipped with a South and other fundie based areas.

  122. emjayay says:

    Except, you know, that’s how our system works.

  123. emjayay says:

    Oh boy. I’m not going to bother….

  124. George King says:

    Appalled at your lack of reading comprehension and inability to google facts, before foot in mouth. I did not say HRC’s donor list (although most on that list are or have usurped US citizens of their Treasure, Commons and Inalienable Rights) isn’t that what our revolutionary war was all about?

    According to Vox’s Jonathan Allen, formerly ofBloomberg, at least 181 Clinton Foundation donors lobbied the US State Department while Hillary Clinton was in charge, highlighting new questions over whether the Clintons profited from effectively renting out American foreign policy:

    The size and scope of the symbiotic relationship between the Clintons and their donors is striking. At least 181 companies, individuals, and foreign governments that have given to the Clinton Foundation also lobbied the State Department when Hillary Clinton ran the place, according to a Vox analysis of foundation records and federal lobbying disclosures…This list of donors to the Clinton foundation who lobbied State matters because it gives a sense of just how common it was for influence-seekers to give to the Clinton Foundation, and exactly which ones did.

    Bear in mind that this analysis only includes the disclosed donors. The recently-revealed Russia/uranium deal involved undisclosed donations (part of a pattern, it turns out), in violation of a transparency agreement Hillary signed upon joining the State Department. Team Clinton’s excuse for failing to disclose the information has unraveled under cursory scrutiny. Clinton’s defenders insist that nobody has offered concrete proof that this multi-million-dollar “slush fund” favor bank ever resulted in direct action by the State Department; at some point, though, enough smoke convinces people there’s a fire. And the smoke is billowing:

    Former President Bill Clinton accepted more than $2.5 million in speaking fees from 13 major corporations and trade associations that lobbied the U.S. State Department while Hillary Clinton was secretary of state, an International Business Times investigation has found. The fees were paid directly to the former president, and not directed to his philanthropic foundation. Many of the companies that paid Bill Clinton for these speeches — a roster of global giants that includes Microsoft, Oracle and Dell — engaged him within the same three-month period in which they were also lobbying the State Department in pursuit of their policy aims, federal disclosure documents show.

    Several companies received millions of dollars in State Department contracts while Hillary Clinton led the institution. The disclosure that President Clinton received personal payments for speeches from the same corporate interests that were actively seeking to secure favorable policies from a federal department overseen by his wife underscores the vexing issue now confronting her presidential aspirations…When she became secretary of state in 2009, Hillary Clinton agreed to subject Bill Clinton’s speaking engagements to a conflict-of-interest review by an ethics counsel in Clinton’s State Department.

    Documents from Judicial Watch show the counsel’s office approving the bulk of the speaking engagements — even those that came during or after periods when the firms paying Bill Clinton were filing disclosure forms notifying government regulators that they were lobbying the State Department. The revelation that the Clinton family accepted money from 13 firms actively working to influence the Clinton-run State Department follows IBTimes’ report on Monday showing that Goldman Sachs paid Bill Clinton $200,000 just before the banking giant began lobbying the State Department.

  125. emjayay says:

    Nader is still peddling that today. He’s right that a lot of other things, like a better campaign, not sighing and walking over to Bush in the debate, running on Clinton/Gore record instead of against it, playing up his environmental cred instead of ignoring it, etc. all would have probably gotten Gore more votes. Not to mention the butterfly ballot in Florida causing all kinds of old Jews to vote for Buchanan by mistake, purging thousands of non-felons, etc. etc.

    But no Nader=President Gore.

    I don’t think Jill Stein is going anywhere.

  126. Don Chandler says:

    “It sickens me to the core that the Majority of American public would rather ban marriage equality.”–delusion often leads to sickness. If you were from Texas you could be excused because your immediate surroundings suggest that most people want to overturn Marriage Equality. But nationally, marriage equality has a 60+ polling.

  127. emjayay says:

    Not just oligarchy but totally corrupt massive kleptocracy.

  128. emjayay says:

    Free dinner plus attention, free all expenses paid trip to Moscow plus more attention and dinner with Trump’s favorite leader….way to go, Jill. Very liberal of you.

  129. emjayay says:

    When a year ago in the Republic of Ireland – you know, the conservative traditional Roman Catholic part – people voted to approve gay marriage at 62% plus with a 60% turnout it’s obvious that attitudes about gay people have changed rather radically in the West.

    The gay liberation movement started in the early 1950’s in the US. The Summer of Love-related cultural changes led to it really getting going by 1968. Here we are today.

    Women’s rights in the US started changing with the new Republican Woman after the revolution, got together in 1848 in Seneca Falls…women in the white collar workplace….women’s suffrage in 1920…women taking men’s jobs in WWII and women in WACS and WAVES…The Second Sex in 1949…no-fault divorce…the Feminine Mystique in 1963….women’s liberation/feminism …Ms. magazine…NOW….women in more roles in the military every year….

    Then there’s slavery to civil rights laws in 1965 and on from there.

    This is how things work in a democracy.

  130. emjayay says:

    Autism awareness has gone from 0 to 60 in a generation and continues to be researched and understood. WTF are you talking about?

  131. emjayay says:

    Far, far better obviously.

  132. emjayay says:

    Room, but no chance whatsoever.

  133. emjayay says:

    Prop 8 would not remotely have a chance of passing today.

  134. emjayay says:

    And they are losing.

  135. emjayay says:

    Yes, Russia’s laws under Putin against saying anything about gay anything and the active encouragement of people beating up gay people is just like gay marriage and the federal employment policy of non-discrimination and non-dicrimination laws in many cities and the military policy of non-discrimination against gay and transgender people in the US.

    No one said that the US is totally tolerant about gay people or anything else. The US and most of the West has moved, and moved rather quickly in recent years, toward gay equality while Russia has officially moved quickly in the other direction,

  136. Stephen DeVoy says:

    Another example of “red baiting” by America’s newest far-right party, The Democratic Party, led by war criminal and war monger Hillary Clinton.